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  • #31
    Originally posted by PLATO


    It is quite possible that the communist in Iraq could end up with more than just a token role in government. The party is obviously pretty highly organized there.
    They certainly have a role to play. Especially if the IGC and CPA rush too far too fast in the direction of privatization.
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    • #32
      Re: Re: Re: Re: Thousands take to Iraqi streets to protest "terrorism"

      Originally posted by chegitz guevara


      Since more Iraqis are being killed right now that Americans, that is actually a possibility. Just cuz Hussein isn't in power doesn't mean he still doesn't have many in the grip of terror.
      Then why wasn't the protest in the south this big?

      These people hate sadam more then the Americans but off course they would never walk in an US sponsered demonstration.

      Even people who live under foreign occupation have a sense of national pride.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by PLATO


        It is quite possible that the communist in Iraq could end up with more than just a token role in government. The party is obviously pretty highly organized there.
        Would be funny if they won the first free election

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        • #34
          United States installs communist government in Iraq.
          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by chegitz guevara
            United States installs communist government in Iraq.
            IF they respect democracy, and dont allow terror, then it works for me. Doubt they could pull it off without a coalition with bourgeois forces though.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
              United States installs communist government in Iraq.
              Installs?

              You know, even a communist can get elected in some countrys



              Would be funny if they won the first free election
              No problem if the elections are free and fair.
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              • #37
                Interestingly, the Ayatollahs can put 100,000 k people in the street at the drop of a hat..so 10,000 people is, well, OK but nothing special.

                Interestingly some of the same people who ignored demonstrations of 100K aganist the war in some places point to a demonstration of 10K as proof of thier position...very interesting.
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                • #38
                  GePap, you got it backwards. Some of the same people who pointed with glee at the Shi'te demostrations are ignoring pro-democracy, anti-terrorist demonstrations.

                  As to the demonstrations, I find it interesting that the people of Iraq know that the Ba'athist party is a NAZI party.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Ned
                    GePap, you got it backwards. Some of the same people who pointed with glee at the Shi'te demostrations are ignoring pro-democracy, anti-terrorist demonstrations.

                    As to the demonstrations, I find it interesting that the people of Iraq know that the Ba'athist party is a NAZI party.
                    The comparison is wrong- what matters is the SIZE of a demonstration, which is a proof either of the general feelings, or which parties have the power to put people on the street. A protest of 100k is ALWAYS more important than one of 10K, unless you start doind proportional accoutning of populations.

                    That the Shi'as can pull 100K puls in a day or less while this anti-terrorism one gets only up to 10K shows us who is organized, who is not.
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                    • #40
                      Thousands take to Iraqi streets to protest "terrorism"


                      More than 200 protesters from the Iraqi National Congress and other political parties, women's groups and sheikhs in traditional dress gathered near the National Theatre in Baghdad and marched to a central Baghdad hotel.


                      Is it just me...

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                      • #41
                        Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by GePap
                          Interestingly, the Ayatollahs can put 100,000 k people in the street at the drop of a hat..so 10,000 people is, well, OK but nothing special.

                          Interestingly some of the same people who ignored demonstrations of 100K aganist the war in some places point to a demonstration of 10K as proof of thier position...very interesting.
                          The demonstrations that you are refering to took place by people who were in generally unaffected countries. The demonstration in Iraq was by people who are directly affected by what is happening. That is why some people use it as a justification for a position. 100,000 in Germany? I mean...who really cares? 10,000 in Iraq means something.
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                          • #43
                            Last edited by chequita guevara; December 11, 2003, 20:06.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #44
                              First of all, there were 200K plus in the UK, an "affected country", yet those demostrations were ignored-so i don't buy the first bit.

                              Second, yes, 10K in Iraq means something-20 people in Iraq mean something-1 person means something. Saying it "means something" is, well, a meaningless statement.

                              The question is, does a protest by 10K MAX show any deep level of pol;itical support towards what is being portested about by a significant portion of the population? Not in a city of 5 million. So its nice to see these 10K, but this is in no way a significant event, or aportent of anything, nor a show of any group's political muscle.
                              If you don't like reality, change it! me
                              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GePap
                                First of all, there were 200K plus in the UK, an "affected country", yet those demostrations were ignored-so i don't buy the first bit.
                                Yes...I hear the street fighting and the bombings were just terrible.

                                Second, yes, 10K in Iraq means something-20 people in Iraq mean something-1 person means something. Saying it "means something" is, well, a meaningless statement.
                                Nice twist, but the fact remains. 10,000 people took to the streets, risking their lives, to support taking their country back from terrorist. That seems pretty strong to me in a city of any size.


                                The question is, does a protest by 10K MAX show any deep level of pol;itical support towards what is being portested about by a significant portion of the population? Not in a city of 5 million. So its nice to see these 10K, but this is in no way a significant event, or aportent of anything, nor a show of any group's political muscle.
                                How can you say this is not a significant event? Are you really that blind to what is happening in that country? I can't believe that naive position from you. Surely you are just trolling.

                                The group that is showing its political strength is the people...remember them?
                                "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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