Are white, straight men persecuted today?

[rah]

Now that last one AH, is going to require some clarification.

[Theben]

Originally posted by MrFun
Oooh, oooh -- do I get to watch two mods duke it out?

You're not sexually aroused, now are you?

[Drogue]

I wouldn't say persecuted, but I would possibly say discriminated against. IMHO, jobs, university places and anything else like that should be allocated as far as possible without anyone knowing the sex or ethnicity of the applicant. I think giving specific advantages to those from poorer families/schools (as with universities in the UK) those who belong to 'under-represented' groups, whether by ethnic origin, sexual orientation or gender, is biased, as is discrimination none-the-less.

I support laws that say you can't fire people, or not hire them, specifically for their colour, gender, sexual orientation or wealth. That is, a university should not reject someone because they either are, or are not, poor. I think giving an advantage to anyone because of their ethnic origin is wrong, whether it's because they're coloured or caucasian.

I believe that discrimination, when applying for a job or a place at university, should be on talent and ability alone. Thus giving a advantage to one group that is not given to another is unfair, whatever that group is.

[Theben]

Somehow "Reason" and "Ferrets" don't mix in my mind.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Theben


You're not sexually aroused, now are you?

So you have that fetish too, huh?

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Drogue
I wouldn't say persecuted, but I would possibly say discriminated against. IMHO, jobs, university places and anything else like that should be allocated as far as possible without anyone knowing the sex or ethnicity of the applicant. I think giving specific advantages to those from poorer families/schools (as with universities in the UK) those who belong to 'under-represented' groups, whether by ethnic origin, sexual orientation or gender, is biased, as is discrimination none-the-less.

I support laws that say you can't fire people, or not hire them, specifically for their colour, gender, sexual orientation or wealth. That is, a university should not reject someone because they either are, or are not, poor. I think giving an advantage to anyone because of their ethnic origin is wrong, whether it's because they're coloured or caucasian.

I believe that discrimination, when applying for a job or a place at university, should be on talent and ability alone. Thus giving a advantage to one group that is not given to another is unfair, whatever that group is.

Maybe I should have posted a subtitle with this -- "Don't take this thread seriously."

[Gangerolf]

In Zimbabwe, yes.

[MrFun]

Now THAT is an example of a joke everyone -- give your thanks to Gangerolf.

[Theben]

Yes, only take this thread seriously in Zimbabwe.

[Drogue]

Originally posted by MrFun
Maybe I should have posted a subtitle with this -- "Don't take this thread seriously."

You said t was a chance to vent spleen, so I did

[Theben]

Originally posted by MrFun


So you have that fetish too, huh?

AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

*runs away*

[Theben]

Originally posted by Drogue

You said ti was a chance to vent spleen, so I did

someone else's spleen

[Whaleboy]

Maybe I should have posted a subtitle with this -- "Don't take this thread seriously."

With Drogue, it just saves time not to post the thread in the first place... he's the greatest threat to productivity since smallpox!

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Drogue

You said ti was a chance to vent spleen, so I did

So you don't recognize sarcasm when you see it, huh?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Drogue
I wouldn't say persecuted, but I would possibly say discriminated against.

Do you have any basis for that assertion?

Let me give some exampled. In 1993, I was an editor at my university newspaper, The DePaulia. The school mission was to be a university to help the urban poor and working classes (St. Vincent DePaul and all that). In a city that was (at the time) 44% Black, 37% white, and 14% Hispanic (and the rest misxed or declined to answer) only 11% of the incoming freshmen were Black and only 7% were Hispanics. The graduation rate was slightly different. Only 9% of those graduating were Black, and only 6% were Hispanic.

Is this, then, an example of whites being persecuted? DePaul is fairly prestegious and important university in Chicago. Given that the student body were largely Chicagoans, one wonders how, if whites were being discriminated against, did they manage to more than double their numbers there.

Now, part of it has to do with DePaul drawing suburbanites in, where the number of whites far exceeds the number of minorities. But the school wasn't mostly suburbanites. And many of those suburbanites were from the inner ring of suburbs, which has a higher percentage of minorities than the ones further out, say where Sava (who goes to DePaul) lives.

Anyway, for pointing this out in a paper editorial, the Adminiastrion came down like a ton of bricks on me. I was summarily fired and they attempted to make it look like I was making crap up. But the numbers came from a confidential report I had gotten my hands on. Oh well, being a firebraqnd isn't easy.