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I know, some blokes in New Zealand did it first.Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Well, their "achievement" was also poorly documented, unwitnessed except by a few people working with them, and came a bit after the Froggy with the prop driven balloon who flew around Paris well before the Wrights did their thing.
It wasn't like it was a clean, unique advance in technology - the difference was that lift from the Wright aircraft was solely based on the airfoils, not on a hybrid balloon, but they did not have the first powered flight or controlled flight.
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You seem to think that is what the author and I are claiming, however.Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Nor was I, in fact....people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
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Strawman??Originally posted by Caligastia
To put it in the most basic terms possible, this article is about individuals who are willing to pervert history in order to serve their own ideology. That this happens is undeniable.
Laz, Boris, and others, you can stop knocking down that strawman now. Nobody is claiming evidence of some vast conspiracy against white males or the Wright brothers.
Puleez -- you and Park Avenue seem to have a common neurotic disorder.
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No, Cal. Sometimes I say things in a vastly exaggerated way for comedy value.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil FinlandComment
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Wait...the strawman was the author's, not ours. Your trying to twist out of his point. He's saying that the Wright Brother's achievement is being denigrated because of a trend to abolish white males from history. Yet he provides not one iota of support for his claims, other than a specious reference to his flipping through his kid's textbook. Ok, here's my own testimonial--the vast majority of the people discussed in all my math, science, music, literature and history texts were white men. Satisfied?Originally posted by Caligastia
To put it in the most basic terms possible, this article is about individuals who are willing to pervert history in order to serve their own ideology. That this happens is undeniable.
Laz, Boris, and others, you can stop knocking down that strawman now. Nobody is claiming evidence of some vast conspiracy against white males or the Wright brothers.
If you can show me even one claim from anyone of consequence that the Wright Brothers should be stricken from history that is based on their being white males, I'd be astonished.
This author is simply a hack, has inserted an irrelevant rant about the Wrights into his diatribe against a purported trend, when nothing about how the Wrights are viewed supports such a notion.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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I feel a blog entry coming on. That article's too funny to waste.The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil FinlandComment
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Ok, no worries. I won't take you so seriously next time.Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
No, Cal. Sometimes I say things in a vastly exaggerated way for comedy value....people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - SnottyComment
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Cali -- as Boris pointed out, the straman is in the author's lap, not our laps.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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It seems obvious to me that the author is talking about those who are fanatical about pushing the concept of diversity, and will distort history to push their agenda. Some of these people are in a position of power. You think this is something that should be ignored?Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Wait...the strawman was the author's, not ours. Your trying to twist out of his point. He's saying that the Wright Brother's achievement is being denigrated because of a trend to abolish white males from history. Yet he provides not one iota of support for his claims, other than a specious reference to his flipping through his kid's textbook. Ok, here's my own testimonial--the vast majority of the people discussed in all my math, science, music, literature and history texts were white men. Satisfied?
If you can show me even one claim from anyone of consequence that the Wright Brothers should be stricken from history that is based on their being white males, I'd be astonished.
This author is simply a hack, has inserted an irrelevant rant about the Wrights into his diatribe against a purported trend, when nothing about how the Wrights are viewed supports such a notion....people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - SnottyComment
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To put it in the most basic terms possible, this article is about individuals who are willing to pervert history in order to serve their own ideology. That this happens is undeniable.
And yet this ignores the equally valid charge that most other minority contributions are completely ignored unless somebody makes a concerted effort to point it out.
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Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
I feel a blog entry coming on. That article's too funny to waste.
...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - SnottyComment
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