Kerry wants to ban NRA tv channel

[The diplomat]

Originally posted by MarkG
he is just trying to save the nation from the "if you want to keep your gun, vote this man" ads

And what;s wrong with an ad like that? If there is free speech, then groups should be able to run whatever ads they want.

[Jaakko]

Originally posted by The diplomat


And what;s wrong with an ad like that? If there is free speech, then groups should be able to run whatever ads they want.

Eh. They can still do that, but without exemption as a "news organisation" (unless of course they get that exemption despite Kerry). Read the article.

[MikeH]

Guns 'r bad mmmmkay?

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=2542045#post2542045

This has been already answered. However the praising yells of some of your compatriots when bombs were falling to Bagdat still haven't.

[:) Smiley]

Just because NRA has a TV channel doesn't mean anything. Most people who'd watch it be voting for them anyway.

[Jac de Molay]

Originally posted by The diplomat


And what;s wrong with an ad like that? If there is free speech, then groups should be able to run whatever ads they want.

Yeah, I agree. There's a lot of crap out there worse than an NRA station. Heck, if the Ku Klux Klan started a networks, that's their right, despite their abhorrent viewpoint. Free speech isn''t limited to happy, feely speech.

Edit: I love to hunt and fish, too. So, they'd probably have a lot of good hunting and fishing shows. Bring it on, I say

[MichaeltheGreat]

Re: Kerry wants to ban NRA tv channel

Originally posted by The diplomat
I know a lot of you probably hate the NRA, but don't they have the right to start a tv channel and say whatever they want. What about free speech?

This kind of attempt to regulate free speech just because you don't like it, is really disturbing!

Kerry

I don't like the NRA's politics, although I have no problems with guns. Gun control is using both hands, and all that.

This isn't really a "free speech" issue though - the NRA has a huge number of other communications outlets, but it is a corporate/political lobby looking for a loophole around campaign and lobbying rules that restrict every other campaign contributor and lobbyist.

This is an issue of being able to manipulate elections with completely unaccountable media access, and no possibility of a level playing field for all parties. If the NRA has unrestricted access, it's own channels, and unlimited funds beyond FEC accounting, it will be the only organization in the US with that privilege, and there is no effective counter with equal time or equal access rules.

We already have enough problems with obscene campaign costs and corporate/lobbyist whoring by our elected officials, so granting one PAC or lobbying organization this sort of exemption will undoubtedly lead to ALL well heeled lobbying organizations doing the same thing. Being able to saturate the media with false or misleading last minute ad campaigns, without any restriction, and with public figure immunity from defamation is a great advance for democracy, don't you think?

[Sava]

This isn't really a "free speech" issue though - the NRA has a huge number of other communications outlets, but it is a corporate/political lobby looking for a loophole around campaign and lobbying rules that restrict every other campaign contributor and lobbyist.

We already have enough problems with obscene campaign costs and corporate/lobbyist whoring by our elected officials, so granting one PAC or lobbying organization this sort of exemption will undoubtedly lead to ALL well heeled lobbying organizations doing the same thing. Being able to saturate the media with false or misleading last minute ad campaigns, without any restriction, and with public figure immunity from defamation is a great advance for democracy, don't you think?

I MtG

[MichaeltheGreat]

{Clint Eastwood voice from Heartbreak Ridge}

Don't think that this means we'll be taking long hot showers together.

{/Clint Eastwood voice from Heartbreak Ridge}

[Whaleboy]

What these people have to say sucks, but they still have the right to say it. If those who disagree wish to resort to back-handed tactics to suppress them, then it is a bad day for liberty.

[Sava]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
{Clint Eastwood voice from Heartbreak Ridge}

Don't think that this means we'll be taking long hot showers together.

{/Clint Eastwood voice from Heartbreak Ridge}

yeah, we'll see how you feel after I get a fifth of peppermint schnapps in you

[Sava]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
What these people have to say sucks, but they still have the right to say it. If those who disagree wish to resort to back-handed tactics to suppress them, then it is a bad day for liberty.

sure, they can go out in public and march and say whatever they want... but purchasing PUBLIC AIRWAVEs that are REGULATED BY THE GOVERNMENT is not a guaranteed right in the US Constitution. And as MtG basically said, it's in the public's interest to not let such special interest groups pollute the airwaves with their propaganda.

[Imran Siddiqui]

The thread title is misleading:

The Massachusetts senator sent Federal Election Commission (search) Chairwoman Ellen Weintraub a letter Tuesday asking the commission to block any attempt by the NRA to get a media exemption to campaign finance rules.

He isn't banning an NRA channel, he just does not wish for them to get an exemption to the rules. I mean, would you really want an ACLU channel (knowing your political persuasion?)

[Sava]

forgive diplomat... he's a victim of faux news and rush limbaugh propaganda... and he's a Packer fan.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Sava
and he's a Packer fan.

STRING THE BASTARD UP!!!!