I'm being talked about on other FORUMS!

[Sava]

[Arrian]

Sounds like you claimed to be initiating civil debate and then launched some of your ad hom's, and somebody called you on it. Good for them.

Be proud, Sava. Be very proud.

-Arrian

[SlowwHand]

Honored? Claim to fame?

[Sava]

Arrian: Not at all... I'll post my letter

I could not believe the absurdity of the venomous attacks in Bill Ott’s Nov. 6th letter to the editor. Mr. Ott released a flood of offensive filth aimed at the Daily Herald, Democrats, the media, and everyone else who disagrees with his hawkish views. Instead of trying to contribute to the ongoing debate concerning the Iraq situation in a civil way, Mr. Ott does nothing but spew ad hominem attacks.

Under this president, our military capabilities have been spread thin in a fruitless hunt for a dictator who posed little threat to the American people. The campaign of misinformation and fear that this administration engaged in was immoral and dishonest. Saddam should have been removed, but with the full will, support, and power of the entire world behind us.

This president failed to build such a coalition and now has America stuck bearing most of the cost and responsibility. Our involvement and image as invading occupiers is fueling a growth in terrorist activity and anger in the Islamic World. Even George Bush Sr. knew about the dangers of going into Iraq and engaging in this type of conflict.

And I quote, “I firmly believed we should not march into Baghdad ...To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant, into a latter-day Arab hero …assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinnable urban guerrilla war.” This is from George Bush Sr.’s book “A World Transformed.”

Our president is responsible for this mess. This is not about partisan politics. Democrats have been the most outspoken critics, but even Republican leaders like John McCain are criticizing the president and his policies. Whether it be Republican or Democrat, we need a change in leadership at the highest levels of our government.

I would like to applaud the Daily Herald for presenting a broad range of opposing views concerning these current events. You do not hurt America, its military, or anyone else with your coverage and exposure of a multitude of opinions. You are the very essence of what freedom of speech is. If we let censorship and belligerent nationalism destroy our freedoms, then the American people have truly lost.

As for Mr. Ott, I suppose he should call Ann Coulter and ask for a job.

I didn't insult anybody... It's not my fault these conservatives can't read. But I am proud that I get their panties in a bunch.

[Sava]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Honored? Claim to fame?

I'm sure they have sarcasm in Texas... I know it's a backwards ass state... but still...

[Spec]

[Arrian]

Not a bad letter, Sava.

Your opponent certainly tried to make a mountain out of a molehill. I merely assumed there was more to it, since I'm only familiar with you here at 'poly, and well, come on, you know how you are here

-Arrian

[chequita guevara]

That letter was so uncharacteristically you. You should post it in that forum, btw.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Arrian
Not a bad letter, Sava.

Your opponent certainly tried to make a mountain out of a molehill. I merely assumed there was more to it, since I'm only familiar with you here at 'poly, and well, come on, you know how you are here

-Arrian

ty...

I don't blame you though... I do act like an ass here. The internet is where I like to express my more impulsive and angry emotions. But my letters to newspapers are usually very refined and devoid of personal attack. My days here have taught me to harness that negative energy into somewhat rational expressions of my opinions.

[Sava]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
That letter was so uncharacteristically you. You should post it in that forum, btw.

yeah, I registered, but it's a forum for women. I just wanted to set the record straight. Even though I probably am everything that conservative woman thinks, she couldn't possibly tell that from my letter or that guy's response to it.

In fact, he said I called Bush "immoral and dishonest" which is wrong. I called his campaign of misinformation "immoral and dishonest". I also don't think my letter was particularly partisan. I mentioned opponents from both sides of the aisle, as well as saying a change of leadership, regardless of party, is needed.

Maybe I should become some sort of social commentator. I'm pretty good at crafting out letters like that.

[Provost Harrison]

It looks like I have been discussed in senate Beat that

http://www.facultysenate.uc.edu/02.11.99.htm

[Theben]

You should be proud, sava. Oh, so very proud.

[Sava]

you suck provo!

[Arrian]

If the man is running an "immoral and dishonest" disinformation campaign, the man is immoral and dishonest. So you did call him that. Just not directly.

-Arrian

[Sava]

Originally posted by Arrian
If the man is running an "immoral and dishonest" disinformation campaign, the man is immoral and dishonest. So you did call him that. Just not directly.

-Arrian

regardless... Mr. Spowert misquoted me and mischaracterized my statements as partisan. I clearly stated a change of leadership was needed, whether it be Republican or Democrat.

Imagine for a moment if George Bush Sr. was in office. While I would disagree with tax cuts and still rail on him for a poor economy, if Bush Sr. would have had the same international support he had in '91, I probably would not be as opposed to the war as I am now. I still have problems with some of the arguments that we are fighting the war on terror in Iraq. I agree with General Wesley Clark that this war is a distraction from attacking Al Qaeda. But my position has always been that getting Saddam was right, but not without international support. America should not have to bear the entire cost and responsibility if this dictator was such a threat. And if he was such a threat, it illustrates Dubya's ineptitude in building a true international coalition.