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  • Justice is blind in Britain

    Reprinted from the blog.


    Today's question- why is Home Secretary David Blunkett such a monstrously incompetent, bulging sack of monkey ****? Let's check the news of the day. The Sunday Times reports that Mr Blunkett is attempting to block the repatriation of British captives at Guantanamo Bay, on the grounds that they would have to be released in Britain.

    The reason why they would have to be released is that there isn't sufficient evidence to convict them. Now at some point in your life you may have encountered the concept of "innocent until proven guilty"- just how valuable a concept do you feel that is? David Blunkett is blocking the repatriation of British citizens on the grounds that he thinks they won't be convicted in a British criminal court. In other words, he is declaring a lack of faith in the British judicial system's ability to administer justice.

    Bear in mind that he's the Home Secreatary. Yup- that's right. He's in charge of the British judicial system. Isn't that somewhat akin to the Pope declaring himself to be an atheist? Or George W Bush whipping off his mask to reveal the grinning beardy face of Osama Bin Laden? It's off the scale, isn't it? "Yes, I've been in charge of the British judicial system since 2001 and to be perfectly honest I'd rather leave British citizens locked up without charge abroad, in the knowledge that mild forms of torture have been approved for use on them, rather than give them a fair trial in a British Crown Court".

    It's unbelievable. Why isn't he publicly flagellating himself while screaming for forgiveness for being an utter failure? I live in the hope that he's mistakenly thought a large studded dildo was in fact his Braille transcription of their custody records, and has read erroneous messages of national security warnings into the silicone skin of a "Magnum Anal Invader". The thought that he's actually not making some monstrous error is too scary to contemplate- we'd have to conclude the the person in charge of Britain's law enforcement has absolutely no belief in Habaeus Corpus and the rule of law and is prepared to bypass those concepts. Terrifying, isn't it?
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    How rare is it for British Cabinet members to disagree with the PM in this fashion? It was my understanding that Blair and others had been working to get the British citizens handed over to them for sometime.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by DinoDoc
      How rare is it for British Cabinet members to disagree with the PM in this fashion?
      Pretty common actually, though usually on detail points only. Brown and Blair are notorious for disagreements. Blunkett is more totalitarian than most Labourites though, with ID cards and his beliefs on the legal system.

      Originally posted by DinoDoc
      It was my understanding that Blair and others had been working to get the British citizens handed over to them for sometime.
      That is what I had thought, though I don't think they said it in so many words
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      • #4
        Re: Justice is blind in Britain

        Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
        "Yes, I've been in charge of the British judicial system since 2001 and to be perfectly honest I'd rather leave British citizens locked up without charge abroad, in the knowledge that mild forms of torture have been approved for use on them, rather than give them a fair trial in a British Crown Court".
        A sad day when Blair still supports such a totalitarian fool.

        Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
        It's unbelievable. Why isn't he publicly flagellating himself while screaming for forgiveness for being an utter failure?
        That I would pay to see

        Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
        I live in the hope that he's mistakenly thought a large studded dildo was in fact his Braille transcription of their custody records, and has read erroneous messages of national security warnings into the silicone skin of a "Magnum Anal Invader".
        And that I really wouldn't

        Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
        The thought that he's actually not making some monstrous error is too scary to contemplate- we'd have to conclude the the person in charge of Britain's law enforcement has absolutely no belief in Habaeus Corpus and the rule of law and is prepared to bypass those concepts. Terrifying, isn't it?
        Yes. Why is he still there, he puts his foot in it, trys to get through really unpopular policies, from tuition fees to ID cards. Why does Blair stand by him?
        Last edited by Drogue; December 7, 2003, 14:03.
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        But he would think of something

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DinoDoc
          How rare is it for British Cabinet members to disagree with the PM in this fashion? It was my understanding that Blair and others had been working to get the British citizens handed over to them for sometime.
          Interesting. This brings up a two part question for me.

          1) Considering this looks like a mighty big issue to disagree with the PM on, how likely is it that the Home Sec. will be fired?

          2) How hard is such a thing to do?
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          • #6
            To be brutally honest, I don't think Blair disagrees. He's certainly done very little in the way of repatriating them. A few vaguely encouraging noises amount to next to nothing when his deputy is actively blocking such measures.

            If Blair had really wanted the British suspects repatriated and dealt with in British courts, it could have been done months ago.
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            • #7
              Why does Blair stand by him?
              It means the public can direct their hatred towards Blunkett instead of dear old Tony of course. Always handy to have someone really unpopular in the cabinet - that way he can intorduce a load of unwise policies but claim they were Blunketts idea and he doesnt agree. Therefore, Blair gets what he want, and still remains popular.
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              • #8
                I agree with Laz. The PM says he want's them back, but in PMs question time on it, he didn't answer when probed about what he was doing, other than the obligatory "he cares about them as British Citizens" thing.
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                But he would think of something

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Verres
                  It means the public can direct their hatred towards Blunkett instead of dear old Tony of course. Always handy to have someone really unpopular in the cabinet
                  He's got Prescott. What more does he need in unpopularity
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                  • #10
                    He also has Clare Short and had Galloway.
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                    • #11
                      Well. I wouldn't say Blair had Clair Short or Galloway because of their unpopularity, more to show that he accepts people from all parts of the party. He has to try to appease some of the left wingers while he tries to put through foundation hospitals and tuition fees.
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                      • #12
                        Left-wingers, if we assume that they are in favour of reducing inequality, should be in favour of introducing higher fees for a specialised post-18 education. Ceteris paribus, this will free up additional government funds for investment in pre-16 education, where the real problem lies with inequality of education. Most poor people drop out of the education system before A-levels anyway, due to the ****e performance of inner-city schools and - a more upcoming problem due to relocation of persistent offenders to fringe parts of cities - some suburban schools.
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                        • #13
                          But people who drop out before 16 because of ability, not money. Left wingers want everyone to be able to go as far with education as they wish, without money being an issue. Therefore, the whole thing should be free, so that no-one is disadvantaged because of money, but universities should be selective on ability.
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                          But he would think of something

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                          • #14
                            Yes it is. Well not blind but very close to fascist. The antiterrorist law in particular can be appealed in any court of the world. It's so fareaching.

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                            • #15
                              Laz, what crime would they be charged with in Britain and what element of proof is allegedly lacking?
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