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  • #16
    ted, is your bar for sexual pleasure a hole and a heartbeat?
    "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
    'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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    • #17
      As che pointed out, there was no al-Qaeda in '90 (or '93 for that matter). So at best, this article is relying on totally unreliable sources, if not blatantly fabricating information.
      "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
      -Bokonon

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      • #18
        Oh, and to protect the methods that such intellegence was gathered as well.

        If the target were aware of what information we had, the target would also possibly know how we collected it. And if the target were aware of exactly how we collected our intellegence information, he'd now how to stop of from getting it anymore. That would be A Bad Thing.
        -connorkimbro
        "We're losing the war on AIDS. And drugs. And poverty. And terror. But we sure took it to those Nazis. Man, those were the days."

        -theonion.com

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        • #19
          Chegitz and Ramo are both WRONG


          JANES INTELLIGENCE REVIEW



          August 1, 2001

          During the 1980s, resistance fighters in Afghanistan developed a world-wide recruitment and support network with the aid of the USA, Saudi Arabia and other states. After the 1989 Soviet withdrawal, this network, which equipped, trained and funded thousands of Muslim fighters, came under the control of Osama bin Laden. In light of evidence from the recently completed US embassy bombing trials, Phil Hirschkorn, Rohan Gunaratna, Ed Blanche, and Stefan Leader examine
          >the genesis, operational methods and organisational structure of the Bin Laden network - Al-Qaeda.

          BODY:
          Al-Qaeda ('The Base') is a conglomerate of groups spread throughout the world operating as a network. It has a global reach, with a presence in Algeria, Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, Jordan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Syria, Xinjiang in China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Myanmar, Indonesia, Mindanao in the Philippines, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Yemen, Libya, Tunisia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Dagestan, Kashmir, Sudan, Somalia, Kenya, Tanzania,
          Azerbaijan, Eritrea, Uganda, Ethiopia,
          and in the West Bank and Gaza.


          Since its creation in 1988, Osama bin Laden has controlled Al-Qaeda. As such, he is both the backbone and the principal driving force behind the network.
          Check your sources next time guys.

          Maybe you forgot when the World Trade Center got bombed the FIRST time back in 1993.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MRT144
            ted, is your bar for sexual pleasure a hole and a heartbeat?
            Apparently less, since Coulter would have to have a heart to have a heartbeat.
            Tutto nel mondo è burla

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            • #21
              Like you guys wouldn't hit it.
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              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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              • #22
                Is she a porn star?

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                • #23
                  that adams apple is disturbing.
                  "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                  'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                  • #24
                    i'd hit it, too
                    -connorkimbro
                    "We're losing the war on AIDS. And drugs. And poverty. And terror. But we sure took it to those Nazis. Man, those were the days."

                    -theonion.com

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                    • #25
                      Re: Saddam and al Qa'ida - why is Bush suppressing the evidence?

                      maybe because (*gasp*) it isn't there

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ted Striker
                        Maybe you forgot when the World Trade Center got bombed the FIRST time back in 1993.
                        So that was Al qaida too? I don't think so. If I remember correctly some egyptian Mullah was tried and found guilty of being the mastermind there. No mention of al-quida at that time. but maybe that was confidential at the time. Or what?

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                        • #27
                          Check your sources next time guys.
                          Fair enough, but al-Qaeda wasn't at all significant until years later. They couldn't pull off a terrorist attack until 1994 (the Manilla embassy bombings IIRC).

                          Maybe you forgot when the World Trade Center got bombed the FIRST time back in 1993.
                          Which had absolutely nothing to do with al-Qaeda.
                          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                          -Bokonon

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                          • #28
                            Tripledoc, it appears your criticism of the report centers on two items: 1) what WMD's Bush cited to justify the war; and 2) the lack of any contact between Atta and the Iraqi intelligence service in Praque in 2001.

                            Bush actually justified the war both on Saddam's attempted acquisition of nuclear weapons and upon Saddam's possession of bio and chem weapons. The potential of Saddam giving terrorists anthrax was a significant cause for the war.

                            On Atta, the report notes significant controversy surrounding the 2001 visit to Praque. However, this only diverts attention away from confirmed visits earlier, including the well documented visit in the Spring of 2000 and the Iraqi order for a wire transfer of funds.

                            Finally, Che and Ramo falsely deny the existence of al Qa'ida as early as 1990 to dismiss the report in its entirety.

                            MRT144 criticism is typical of some of the left who are overly sensitive to any criticism let alone being laughed at by the likes of Coulter.

                            But the point remains. Why is Bush being silent on this issue? Is he allowing the Dems to dig a deep hole so that he can bury them in it in next year's campaign? I think this is the reason.
                            http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                            • #29
                              Ann Coulter looks like the twin sister of a Swedish ultra-feminist. They both should have multiple body cavities filled for pure punishment.
                              So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
                              Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Ned
                                MRT144 criticism is typical of some of the left who are overly sensitive to any criticism let alone being laughed at by the likes of Coulter.
                                god forbid someone criticize the right though. god forbid someone point out how wrong coulter is in her rants.
                                "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                                'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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