Israel has done more for Palestinians then any other country in the world

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
According to Nelson Mandela, Israel treats Palestinians worse than Black people were treated in Apartheid South Africa. SA never dropped bombs on the ghettos.

Did the blacks ever use suicide bombers to blow up white people?

[GePap]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
He's something of an expert on how Black South Africans were treated.

But he is not a greater expert on how the pals are treated than really any person who has studied the area. Which is the problem.

Everyone here knows my general sympathy lies with the Palestinian people..but hyperbole vs the Israeli is not helpful (like hyperbole is ever helpful). Israel is not YET an apartheid state, becuase Jews outnumber Arabs in israel, and the territories are not part of Israel. Now, with time, Israel will have to come to grips with the reality that unless every Jew from around the world migrates to Israel or the standard of living of pals jumps up dramatically thus cutting thier birthrate, or all Jews start having kids like the ultraorthodox, or all Pals are driven form the land (none look likely, and only one of those seems attractive) the population between the Jordan river and the Mediterranean will be overwhlemingly not Jewish in about 50 years.

[GePap]

Originally posted by skywalker


Did the blacks ever use suicide bombers to blow up white people?

No, But mandela was labelled a terrorist. And suicude bombers begun about 10 years ago. The Israelis were not nicer during the first, suicide-bomber free intifadah.

[Az]

Israel didn't use armor or aviation, then.

[Kuciwalker]

Also, IIRC this topic has already been discussed before.

[GePap]

Becuase there was no PA territory- everything was already in Israel hands, nothing to "re-occupy", which is what the Armor is for. But house demolitions and exiling people form Gaza to the West Bank did go on, and torture of prisoners was common enough.

[GePap]

Originally posted by skywalker
Also, IIRC this topic has already been discussed before.

Please show us one that hasn't.

[Kuciwalker]

[GePap]

[Az]

Originally posted by GePap
Becuase there was no PA territory- everything was already in Israel hands, nothing to "re-occupy", which is what the Armor is for. But house demolitions and exiling people form Gaza to the West Bank did go on, and torture of prisoners was common enough.

The armor isn't used only then. what gave you that idea? it also patrols open ground and is used as reinforcement for infantry during clashes, i.e. if a force comes under attack, the reinforsements will be tanks.

[GePap]

Were the Pals as well armed the first time? NO. It seems simple enough. But Rabin's little Iron Fist policy back in '87 and 88 is what begun to drive so much public opinion against Israel, well, that on top of Lebanon.