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  • #16
    Because they don't think on the long term. And that's why we have government.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Smiley
      Because they don't think on the long term. And that's why we have government.
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      • #18
        The problem with Shi's and Boris' thinking is that the income of the family that the student comes from should be of any importance. In my opinion it shouldn't be, at all. Opportunity for all.
        In my case I got huge amounts of financial aid but still came out of college with $20,000 in loans if all I got was subsidized loans I would have well over $100,000 in loans ATM while all of my friends with rich parents wouldn't be paying a cent. That hardly seems workable and if that was the case I wouldn't have had to go to a college that was a good bit worse than the college I ended up going to so I could have cashed in on merit money.
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        • #19
          In my case I got huge amounts of financial aid but still came out of college with $20,000 in loans if all I got was subsidized loans I would have well over $100,000 in loans ATM while all of my friends with rich parents wouldn't be paying a cent. That hardly seems workable and if that was the case I wouldn't have had to go to a college that was a good bit worse than the college I ended up going to so I could have cashed in on merit money.
          You seriously think that taking the university education out of the equation would remove the difference in wealth between you and your friends of rich parents? That difference would continue no matter what.

          The fact is, you were insightful enought tonotice that $20k worth of debt is a piddling investment for the massive gains it provides you over your career.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Park Avenue


            You seriously think that taking the university education out of the equation would remove the difference in wealth between you and your friends of rich parents? That difference would continue no matter what.

            The fact is, you were insightful enought tonotice that $20k worth of debt is a piddling investment for the massive gains it provides you over your career.
            Well the gap between me and my friends with rich parents is a lot smaller in the current situation in which I was able to go to the best school that accepted rather than the best school I could affort (which would have been a much much worse school if it wasn't for need-based scholarships).
            And you're right $20,000 is nothing, with subsidized interest rates I can pay off ridiculously easily while saving a good amount of money, but if I had to pay what I would have had to if I didn't have need-based scholarships, I'd be living on beans, rice and pabst in order to meet my student loan payments.
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            • #21
              All education here, from primary to universities, is payed by the government.

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              • #22
                What opportunity is there in reserving university for just the rich?
                Oh, university spots shouldn't be reserved for the rich, by any means. They should simply be reserved for those who can afford them.
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