Iraq Scientists: Lied About Nuke Weapons

[SlowwHand]

Zen, you're a dumbass.
Fooled Hussein (if THIS is true), but fooling Bush and any other's is Bush's fault?
Dumbass.

[MrFun]

Once again, Slowwy impresses us with his level of articulation.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by mrmitchell
IOW, every discussion about everything other than in the future is useless, because it's already happened and we can't change it.

Nevermind. If you insist on being blatantly stupid, who am I to correct you mrmitchell?

[SlowwHand]

Once again you impress me by mouthing off when you weren't being addressed, MrFun.
Speak when spoken to.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by MrFun
Once again, Slowwy impresses us with his level of articulation.

Impressed me too! Right on Sloww!!

[Zylka]

Originally posted by MrFun
Once again, Slowwy impresses us with his level of articulation.

What level of articulation have YOU ever proven? And a graduate, at that

edit: alright Sloww. Here's your cookie

[SlowwHand]

I graduated, but not with a major in Inventive Histories.

[Sava]

the chicken hawks are too proud to admit Bush was wrong... what a surprise...

it's important to talk about how the Bush admin misled the country and engaged in a campaign of fear mongering to gain support for their war... sure, solutions to the Iraq problem are important... but so is accountability. Lying liars and their dope sheep need to be held accountable.

[Ned]

It is interesting how Bush is a deliberate liar, according to the left, when he said that Saddam had a nuke program when the intel that Bush was relying on was apparently the same false information being fed Saddam.

All this shows is the amazing bias and self-deception of the left.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Ned
It is interesting how Bush is a deliberate liar, according to the left, when he said that Saddam had a nuke program when the intel that Bush was relying on was apparently the same false information being fed Saddam.

All this shows is the amazing bias and self-deception of the left.

oh please... if Bush wasn't lying, then he's completely incompetent... take your pick... he's a liar or a dope... or both...

I lean more towards liar because the administration propagated intelligence that they knew wasn't true (Niger).

You can admit you were wrong Ned, I won't gloat or hold it against you. In fact, I can respect someone who admits their mistakes. It's just pathetic when someone won't admit their wrong, even in the face of the undeniable truth that they are.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Sava
oh please... if Bush wasn't lying, then he's completely incompetent... take your pick... he's a liar or a dope... or both...

I lean more towards liar because the administration propagated intelligence that they knew wasn't true (Niger).

You can admit you were wrong Ned, I won't gloat or hold it against you. In fact, I can respect someone who admits their mistakes. It's just pathetic when someone won't admit their wrong, even in the face of the undeniable truth that they are.

Sava, how was I wrong? I did not know, as I presume Bush did not know, that the Iraq nuke program was a lie.

Bush could only have been lying if he KNEW the intel was wrong. Bush could only be incompetent if there was something that suggested the intel was a lie and that he did not follow up. But here, even the Brit intel supported the CIA on this issue.

[Sava]

sigh... don't worry Ned, I have faith that one day you will see the light...

[Berzerker]

liberation - not a lie

Sure it was or we'd be invading every country in need of liberation.

It is interesting how Bush is a deliberate liar, according to the left, when he said that Saddam had a nuke program when the intel that Bush was relying on was apparently the same false information being fed Saddam.

Seems like a valid point, if US intelligence based it's conclusions on intercepts of the lies being told by Iraqi scientists to Saddam, then they fooled both Saddam and the US. Then again, did US intelligence really believe and claim Iraq had a valid nuke program? It appears the Bush administration "culled" intelligence to paint a false picture, but wasn't the Clinton administration making similar claims a few years ago?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Ned
It is interesting how Bush is a deliberate liar, according to the left, when he said that Saddam had a nuke program when the intel that Bush was relying on was apparently the same false information being fed Saddam.

All this shows is the amazing bias and self-deception of the left.

What are you trying to say? That Boosh completely disregarded the UN weapons inspectors?

[David Floyd]

Fooled Hussein (if THIS is true), but fooling Bush and any other's is Bush's fault?

No, but starting a war IS Bush's fault. He needs to own up, and take personal responsibility for his actions. I want Bush to say "Yes, I started this war - it was not a response to aggression from Iraq, but an offensive war." He doesn't even have to admit to being wrong in his decision to go to war - and I'll even grant the point that if he went to war because he legitimately believed, from valid intelligence, that Iraq had or was close to having WMD, he was not maliciously wrong. I just want a simple admission from Bush that he started a war, and not try to blame others (Saddam) for his actions.