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  • #16
    and some guy triple-tracked into obscurity.
    the multi-tracking is a necessity of the genre for many rappers. breathless deliveries are demanded and though most of the rappers who are known for them can do them, its a better idea to have them rap a few lines straight... pause... rap the next few lines, etc. and have a multi-track effect. for example, Cormega has an extremely noticable multi-tracking (i mean where he sounds like he's coming from a different direction every 5 seconds) but on his freestyles, he raps straight through with relative ease. it's just a matter of preventing rushing and cracking due to lack of oxygen, etc. on the album tracks.
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • #17
      nonono... you mistake what i'm saying. that's not multi-tracking. or at least what i was thinking at any rate. you've got four tracks of vocalsin the same spot. most rappers don't actually hit distinct pitches, so when you lay three or four tracks of not quite the same thing over each other, it sounds like ass.
      I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
      [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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      • #18
        you mean tracks over each other? you sure you're not thinking of reverb? i can't think of too many rappers who rap over what they already said in the studio. on the one-word punchlines, they do that but those are occasional just to stress a clever pun or something.
        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • #19
          Bon Jovi, Coldplay, Our Lady Peace, Queen, StainD, and certain monster ballads are good.

          Air (band's name) is one of my favorites.
          "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
          ^ The Poly equivalent of:
          "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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          • #20
            i know of exactly what i speak of. unfortunately i can't think of any examples off the top of my head.

            wait.

            remember mase?
            I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
            [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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            • #21
              North Korean anthem, USSR Armenia, Azerbaijan, China, Russia, Germany, France, South Korea, Japan, Australia, India.
              Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
              Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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              • #22
                3rd and the mortal, The Gathering, Within Temptation, Opeth, Dead can dance, Haggard, Ayreon, Tiamat, Therion etc etc

                Most of these bands could be described as "soft metal" if you want to generalize
                The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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                • #23
                  To enter my chill out zone I listen to:

                  jazzwise/soulwise/funkwise:

                  Jhelisa, especially the Friendly Pressure e.p. . It's a lovely sunny summer groove, cool beats to bliss out to.

                  Attica Blues, the divine voice of Ms. Dionne Warwick, especially the Burt Bacharach songs, Morcheeba's Big Calm album, and the Trigger Hippie and Tape Loop singles, Kitty White, Abbey Lincoln and Shirley Horn, and Cassandra Wilson, especially her version of Tupelo Honey, because her voice is so mellow and sweet, it could be honey pouring in your ears. D.J. Shadow's Endtroducing is also great wee small hours music.
                  Alpha's first album is marvellous to relax to, and also makes a fine background for intimate moments...
                  Isaac Hayes' Hot Buttered Soul and Black Moses are mighty fine.

                  Soundtrack/ambiently, I like Michael Brook, his Albino Alligator soundtrack is luscious. Craig Armstrong's album The Space Between Us is worth checking out too, as is Caroline Lavelle's Moorlough Shore. William Orbit's Ngram label released a series of albums in the late 90s that are all chill out zone contenders, as are his Strange Cargo series. It's worth checking out Brian Eno's series, Ambient 1-4, and the releases on his Obscure record label from the late 70s, especially his pioneering first ambient album, Discreet Music. Harold Budd's album on the Obscure label, Pavilion of Dreams, combines ambient with jazz sounds and rich almost operatic vocalizing.

                  The more vocal oriented relaxing music I like is people like Badly Drawn Boy, Beth Hirsch, Beth Orton's first album, the trippier remixes of St. Etienne (for that retro sixties film moment when you're cruising down a sun bleached empty stretch of highway beside the sea) and Sheila Chandra.

                  If you want to relax in a classical vein, the old standby is Erik Satie, but Abbess Hildegard of Bingen is well worth a listen, and for a classical fusion try Jan Garbarek and the Hilliard Ensemble's albums, Officium and Mnemosyne.

                  Peter Gabriel's Passion soundtrack and the Passion Sources album are great to unwind to, as are other releases on his Realworld label- the Michael Brook/U. Srinivas collaboration and the Djavan Gasparyan album being two stand outs. Brook's work with Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan on Night Song and Mustt Mustt is also worth checking out too.
                  Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                  ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                  • #24
                    Radiohead, Muse, Alanis Morissette, Life After Marvin (local band), and the Moulin Rouge soundtrack.
                    Exult in your existence, because that very process has blundered unwittingly on its own negation. Only a small, local negation, to be sure: only one species, and only a minority of that species; but there lies hope. [...] Stand tall, Bipedal Ape. The shark may outswim you, the cheetah outrun you, the swift outfly you, the capuchin outclimb you, the elephant outpower you, the redwood outlast you. But you have the biggest gifts of all: the gift of understanding the ruthlessly cruel process that gave us all existence [and the] gift of revulsion against its implications.
                    -Richard Dawkins

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                    • #25
                      Cypress Hill (Cant get anymore chill that that)
                      Eric Clapton
                      Dave Mathiews Band

                      That relaxes me.

                      Spec.
                      -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by molly bloom
                        To enter my chill out zone I listen to:

                        jazzwise/soulwise/funkwise:
                        Red hot Chili peppers?


                        SPec.
                        -Never argue with an idiot; He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Albert Speer
                          it still boggles me how yall can listen to rock music. there's no beauty in it. it's just loud.
                          You're just close-minded.

                          Trance, specifically Thievery Corporation.
                          I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                          I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Spec


                            Red hot Chili peppers?


                            SPec.
                            Doubleplusgood.

                            But no, just laziness and the effect of rereading 1984 yesterday.

                            Forgot-

                            Cocteau Twins: Echoes in a Shallow Bay and Tiny Dynamine and Treasure.

                            Dead Can Dance: Spleen and Ideal and Into the Labyrinth

                            and Everything But The Girl: Walking Wounded

                            and Jon Hassell: Dream Theory in Malaya and Earthquake Island
                            Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                            ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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                            • #29
                              selfbiased:

                              well mase overdid the punchline thing i was talking about. most rappers just use it everytime they say something notable but mase did it just about every line but i think he's a bit of an exception.

                              though to make mase' case worse was puffy who chats all along the songs of just about every rapper he got on his label. you'll always hear puffy saying, 'oh yeah', 'i like this', etc. all along the songs of any Bad Boy records artist.
                              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                              • #30
                                portishead, mazzy star, massive attack...
                                "Mal nommer les choses, c'est accroître le malheur du monde" - Camus (thanks Davout)

                                "I thought you must be dead ..." he said simply. "So did I for a while," said Ford, "and then I decided I was a lemon for a couple of weeks. A kept myself amused all that time jumping in and out of a gin and tonic."

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