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You have already paid for the bandwidth you are using
If email is charged, then it is charged for everyone. I don't see why my $40/month just for logging on is changing the fact that I have to pay $0.01 per email, leading me to send MUCH less email.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
You have already paid for the bandwidth you are using
If email is charged, then it is charged for everyone. I don't see why my $40/month just for logging on is changing the fact that I have to pay $0.01 per email, leading me to send MUCH less email.
You are already paying for e-mail. What do you think, you got it for free? Your monthly rate is partly determined by an estimate on how many e-mail each user sends. This estimate in turn is based on past statistics.
How many e-mail messages do you send a month? A thousand? At $0.01 each, that's only $10, leaving $30 for other things.
Spammers are different. They send like a million a day. This absolutely kills servers and bandwidth.
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
You are already paying for e-mail. What do you think, you got it for free? Your monthly rate is partly determined by an estimate on how many e-mail each user sends. This estimate in turn is based on past statistics.
Let me quote what LoA said:
If each email cost say $0.001, or $0.01 or $0.10 (not sure, need to do research about how much email say a business sends) then spam would be almost totally gone.
IF is the operative word. LoA is saying, I believe, that if you were charged for each email you sent, on a per-email basis, then spam would be eliminated.
Because, after all, don't companies that SEND spam also pay for that email? Their monthy rate is also partly determined by an estimate of how much e-mail is sent.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Spammers do not pay for spam. If they did, as per LoA's suggestion, there wouldn't be any spammers.
Or, in some cases, they paid a lot less per spam due to fixed ISP charges. In these cases, they would be quickly cut off.
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
Originally posted by Dissident
But people like me don't want to put up with that **** .
Most people don't - but democracy fails here.
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
Spammers do not pay for spam. If they did, as per LoA's suggestion, there wouldn't be any spammers.
Argh! LoA's suggestion, if I read it right, is the EVERYONE pays a certain rate for email. So, in ADDITION to your ISP cost, the government charges each person $0.01 per email.
And if I pay for the email I send and recieve through my ISP, spammers must as well... because I'm sure most of them use commerical ISPs as well. Isn't their monthly fee inclusive of their email sending and recieving? I'm sure it is.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And if I pay for the email I send and recieve through my ISP, spammers must as well... because I'm sure most of them use commerical ISPs as well. Isn't their monthly fee inclusive of their email sending and recieving? I'm sure it is.
They don't. They hijack mail servers that are not properly secured, or use what are known as "open relays."
No ISP in their right mind will take a spammer on board.
Or rather, the cost will be prohibitive to the spammers.
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
Anyway that point is moot, because LoA just said he was talking about a cost in ADDITION to your ISP cost.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Anyway that point is moot, because LoA just said he was talking about a cost in ADDITION to your ISP cost.
The thing is though who is going to charge the spammers this additional cost if what they are doing are already criminal? It's not like they are going to pay to your local business.
(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
(='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
(")_(") "Starting the fire from within."
Hm, I pay 50$/month for internet as much as I like. There is nothing preventing me from sending millions of eMails a day. If the message is 1k big and I add 1 million targets in the bbc field, bandwith is still no problem to send from a common pc with dsl. (at least thats my obsevation from sending a 4mb file to 12ppl. - it didnt take any longer than sending it only to 1 person).
If its no fun why do it? Dance like noone is watching...
The thing is though who is going to charge the spammers this additional cost if what they are doing are already criminal?
Well it isn't yet, IIRC. Unless they send it to you after you unsubscribe.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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