France - Terminal decline, or just misunderstood

[The Mad Monk]

Um...yes.

[Japher]

I also wonder if the 'need' for an organization such as the EU represents lack of financial strength within the individual countries to compete with other growing nations. The major concern I have with the EU is instances in which individual domestic and/or foreign policies collide with economic and fiscal policies. I could see France being required to sagway to fiscal compromises in lieu of domestic security, culture, and desires. Such compromises can cause great unrest within a country or cause the 'power' of a country to fade, instead yeilding such power to the greater organization.

[SlowwHand]

France has a terminal case of dumbass.
The prognosis is grim.

[Sandman]

I'm not claiming that Florida has a great healthcare system.

Fair enough.

Stating that a good health care system and good rail system has anything to do with the stability of country is, IMO, noncomplimentary.

I never mentioned stability. Strawman!

Yet, a weak infrastructure, poor (or seemingly poor) foreign relations, along with an inability or lack of desire for a country to change with the times are good benchmarks for the decline of a country.

Yes, America must change it's ways.

[Japher]

I never mentioned stability. Strawman!

So these pointers;

France has the highest birth rate in the EU. They regularly jostle with Britain for 4th largest economy status. They have the best healthcare system and rail network in the world.

indicate what? I thought these were indicators of Frances strength and stability as a world power, or did I misinterprit?

Yes, America must change it's ways.

I agree, but this is not a US bashing thread, there plenty of those. This a France bashing thread, something I have yet to resort to, but could easily do so if provoked. With comments like these being slung from both sides of the arguments that cause them nothing will surely be done.

[The Viceroy]

This a France bashing thread

Nahhh ... Its a Thread about the future of France ..

But if it lets you get it off your chest .. bash away (just don't expect a easy time of it).

[Sandman]

So these pointers; indicate what? I thought these were indicators of Frances strength and stability as a world power, or did I misinterprit?

Strength doesn't = stability. If I had considered France a stable society I would have said so. But it isn't. Like most others.

[Bereta_Eder]

Just read the title. Don't know if France is in decline (actually I do and it isn't) but the English/American "small d!ck" syndrome vis a vis the French never ceases to entertain me

[The Viceroy]

Thead about France !! Just incase you'd forgotten

[GePap]

France's future lies pretty much with eruope's future..unless somethign radical happens, the future of all of western Europe will be more and more intertwinned. So to answer the question of France's future, you have to figure out Europe's as well.

[Drake Tungsten]

They have the best healthcare system and rail network in the world.

No they don't.

[Q Classic]

in 20 years, i also expect them to be appendages to a greater american and asian economic sphere.

[Sandman]

No they don't.

Yes they do.

[Q Classic]

no, they don't. i'd have to say the best rail system is either german or japanese.

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
France has a terminal case of dumbass.
The prognosis is grim.

Ah, Ming's let you out of your cage?