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  • Mercenaries and Myths

    Some myths are there to stay. I like when people give a chance to thought, chance to think about it again without extreme prejudice. Without labeling someone, without judging a person before hearing him out.
    The chance is rarely given to mercenaries. But like in all life, there are goods and bads.. there are good mercenaries, and there are bad mercenaries. Somehow the public seems to label them all as extreme baddies and people who have reserved a spot in hell, extra hot.

    Here are some myths:

    1. Mercenaries kill people for money, and are professional killers

    Yes, mercenaries in missions might get to a position where they have to kill people. But so do soldiers. Professional soldiers get paid too. They fight for their country, but kill as well. That's the nature of the business. I prefer the term 'professionals'.

    2. Mercenaries go for the highest bidder

    Wrong. Mercenaries are individuals. They choose their side like they want to. Someone has ideological preferences, someone likes the money, someone has former family ties to this country, someone just feels like justice is on the other side, someone selects random, what ever. To say they ALL go for highest bidder is an accusation that is ridicolous. To say, they switch sides easy if someone just pays more.. Like I said.. someone likes the money more, someone the ideology. Do you think a merc who is neo-nazi would fight for Jewish contractor if it pays few dollars more? Or vice versa? I don't think so.

    3. Mercenaries are criminals, and hide their past

    Some might be, some might be not. To say they all are is again laughable accusation. There might be mercs who are criminal, but being merc doesn't equal criminal.

    4. Mercenaries do war crimes and butcher civilians

    Some might do overkills for sure. But that is definitely NOT professional. Soldiers from all areas commit these things when there is some kind of failure, or someone loses it. Real mercenaries are highly trained. Mercs have a mission, a goal. Who pays whole lots of money to a group that has priority #1 to kill civies? To say they all are like this, is ridicolous.
    After all, through out the times mercs have saved people and they are called liberators. To enemy they are pain in the butt.

    5. Mercenaries makes wars longer, and that is their goal

    War is their business, but they don't make wars longer. What do you think, that there are 10 000 mercenaries in every war? Hah .. Secondly, they are professionals. NO ONE pays money to losers who can't prove they are pros. Wars end by doing war. Professionals are more effective, thus making the war end SOONER most of the times. THe worst kind of a war is the one that burns in low fire, killing small amounts of people for 20 years, totalling far more higher casualties, destroyed infrastructure, forever lasting hatred, grudge, generation that has not seen peace, but only war etc.






    .... and btw, if there is a war somewhere, you can't just decide to be a merc and go Rambo. You have to be accepted, and that means you're most likely 'International', which means volunteers from other countries and they are one group themselves. They usually make less than $1000 (EASILY LESS THAN THIS!!!!) a month. In Bosnia, some claim to recieved the pay of 300 DM a month, plus upkeep. So you are a volunteer. That doesn't make you really a merc now does it? Or if it does, then you still are just volunteered for the other country, and you think you can switch sides when you feel like it? Think twice, you'll most likely be shot for even thinking about it. You know too much. And you become enemy anyway. With this kind of crap money, I think you need to have some ideological and personal reasons why you volunteer for a particular side. There goes the highest bidder thing.

    Mercenaries are organized as legal companies around the world, mostly in the US and UK. They are professionals, and companies are 100% legal. They do even humanitarian missions. They do security things. They train personel. They go to a conflict to do a mission that someone has paid them to do, AND that side has to be legal side and not criminal, because then their business gets ILLEGAL. They are under control and under watching eye, so they can't f up badly.
    Not after some missions in 80s in Africa they can't. Now, it's legal.

    in fact, mercenaries have less reasons to kill civies. They don't have so much passion, because they are not under one flag. They are professionals. They are there to do their job. They don't necessarily have grudges. Killing civilians is BAD business.

    If you go sadistic, torture and kill people randomly, others in the group WILL start thinking you're a psycho, right? Do you think you will remain in this group for a long time, thinking that people trust psychos? After all, it's all based on trust. You have to be able to trust the man next to you, and you see this guy flipping and doing war crimes from left to right.. no no.. that guy is gone soon. It's not professional, not good business.

    So there. What's your take?
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  • #2
    Where did this come from?
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    • #3
      Is this a commentary on workplace satisfaction? You sound like you work in HR.
      -30-

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      • #4
        Just breaking myths. 'Mercenaries' are called the dogs of war. But they are the ones making the ULTIMATE sacrifices.. If they are caught by the enemy, do you think they will be treated nicely? No.. they don't have geneva convention to back their safety, if that even works for regular soldiers. They most likely will be tortured and killed without honour. They are the most hated people in the enemies eyes. What if they lose a limb? What will they do after that, and how they make a living? Even if they don't commit a single war crime, they still can be under heavy investigations in their home country, and even tried. No one cares if merc dies. There's no one giving you funeral, most likely no one even knows you are dead. No one gives a crap about you. IN fact, everyone hates you. Do they get the credit and glory for job well done? I don't think so. Yet, they give their lives to countries, and missions. They are someones saviours as well. What about medics? There are medics in every group. They don't necessarily have the chance to kill anyone, except heal people up. THis makes them dogs of war too. People you can spit on legally, people you can loath and hate and no one defends them. But in fact, they can be TRUE MEN OF HONOUR. Some might be psychos and sickos, but it hardly makes them all that. It's not professional, and it's not good business.
        In da butt.
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        • #5
          That's the nature of the business. I prefer the term 'professionals'.
          i bet they prefer it too
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          • #6
            someone has to do a piece on the myths around drug lords... please!
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            • #7
              Being a druglord is not legal business. Pharmacy companies excluded. CIA excluded .

              PMCs are LEGAL companies. You'll be missing these if you ever get into conflict.
              In da butt.
              "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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              • #8
                pmcs?
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                • #9
                  Yes, we know nothing of thees Pablo Escobar. Please for us elucidate on thees man.
                  -30-

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                  • #10
                    Private Military Company.
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                    THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                    "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pekka
                      If they are caught by the enemy, do you think they will be treated nicely?
                      who cares? it's parts of their business
                      they don't have geneva convention to back their safety, if that even works for regular soldiers. They most likely will be tortured and killed without honour.
                      that too
                      They are the most hated people in the enemies eyes.
                      why shouldnt they?
                      What if they lose a limb? What will they do after that, and how they make a living?
                      are you suggesting some sort of pension system?
                      Even if they don't commit a single war crime, they still can be under heavy investigations in their home country, and even tried.
                      amazing stuff. imagine that!
                      No one cares if merc dies. There's no one giving you funeral, most likely no one even knows you are dead. No one gives a crap about you.
                      guess why? cause they are mercenaries!

                      Some might be psychos and sickos, but it hardly makes them all that.
                      yes, some even play softball when they dont kill people....
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                      • #12
                        Extreme Prejudice.
                        In da butt.
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                        • #13
                          I'd say how non-sequiter, but I'm not sure what came 1st.

                          In conclusion: Pekka's drunk again.
                          I'm consitently stupid- Japher
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                          • #14
                            No I'm not. Most are just blinded by the bad reputation.
                            For example, I doubt none of you would turn me down and think me as a son of devil if I volunteered FOR YOU.

                            And if you think they are rotten, because their business is the war business, then surely you then think that most armies and soldiers are exactly that as well. Or is it better to kill for one flag??
                            In da butt.
                            "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
                            THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
                            "God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.

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                            • #15
                              I do admire your ability to take anything someone says and turn it back towards the main topic, no matter how thin the strands are.
                              mmm....thin strands....I think I'll make spaghetti tonight.

                              I know! You can hire yourself out to OTers who need to have their threadjacked ideas re-jacked. You could try: "Topic on a tangent? Scenarios sidelined? Main idea muddled? Try
                              PEKKA'S ANTI-THREADJACKERS:
                              A merc army just for you! For a mere 10 post counts (you need to ditch that chieftain title, warlord sounds soo much better for a merc) we'll put your thread back on topic! No thread is too small or unimportant! Crack commandos standing by, waiting for your call!"
                              I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                              I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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