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  • #16
    Originally posted by mrmitchell
    In my last thread where I listed the 18 (19?) disgusting atrocities in a mac catalogue, MtG, you noted that Mac Warehouse was a sucky catalog for it. Well what would be a good place to buy Macs? (online )
    I don't know, actually. I just knew that Mac Warehouse and PC Warehouse are the same people, they spam snailmail (how I got on the Mac Warehouse list, God doesn't even know), and I know they don't bother being competitive on the PC side, so when I saw the Mac Warehouse prices, I figured the price disparity to similar PC items has to be at least partly due to their high pricing overall.

    www.pricewatch.com might lead you to some, although I don't know how many sources they follow for mac prices.
    When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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    • #17
      and this is even funner.

      Think Secret
      http://www.thinksecret.com/news/tsnotes7.html


      Notes: Zinio, Java, Adobe, retail, more

      By Nick dePlume, Publisher and Editor in Chief
      November 6, 2003 - We've collected a number of news bites this week. Here are a few notes to look out for:

      There are times when Apple deserves criticism and then there are times when its appears to be piling on. Last week, CNET News.com had out their shovels. Just days after releasing the final version of Panther, CNET wrote a series of stories that didn't just provide negative news -- much of it important for Mac users to know -- but delivered it with a certain tinge of attack that left readers by Friday wondering where the overall balance was. The stories included (1) Panther glitches that erase external hard drives, (2) what drive makers were doing to fix the problem, (3) security flaws in new and old versions of OS X revealed by security firm @stake, and (4) complaints from PowerBook G4 owners about an apparent flaw in their LCD displays.


      While interesting stories, none of the them were shocking revelations. In some cases, they had been known to the Mac community for weeks and months. When released all in less than two days by CNET, it looked somewhat curious. Forget CNET's inconsistent coverage of Apple and their reguritating of Mac news from other Web sites. (Example: A week late in reporting the firing of a Microsoft temp who had photos of G5 Macs on the company's doorstep). Was the timing of all this bad news just coincidence, what with Microsoft announcing plans for its next OS and giving CNET an exclusive interview with Bill Gates, or was it something else? In this particular case, it looks suspicious even to other journalists.

      Despite Apple showing quarterly profits, some industry analysts are starting to question more aggressively if it's time Apple came clean on whether its retail stores as a whole are making a profit. One analyst recently said to Think Secret, "They (Apple) conveniently skirt the issue about retail store profitability. They now have added retail stores as another segment of operation performance every quarter, lovingly showing us that the stores are performing better quarter-to-quarter and year-to-year. But quite frankly, I could care less about that. Is the retail division making a profit? If not, why? Investors and analysts are going to start asking these questions very directly and very bluntly and it's going to become more difficult for them to ignore this issue."

      What does it say about the current state of U.S. Mac magazines when publishing houses in Great Britain -- with a much smaller market -- are trying out new, consumer-oriented Mac magazines like iCreate and Your iLife and we see no similar attempts here? Is it just a poor economic climate or just poor creativity and marketing prowess? While both of these magazines are available in the States on newsstands, neither will probably be big sellers at $10 and up. But they do show that some publishers are thinking 'outside the box' instead of just surviving and resting on their laurels. Maybe we should just be glad that the anorexicly-thin Macworld US, MacAddict and MacHome are even still around, despite the personal accolades by some of them that they are profitable and ad sales are up.

      Zinio Systems, Inc. has landed a deal with Apple to have its digital magazine reader factory-installed on new Macs. It is not known when Apple will start including it. Zinio has been strongly going after other Mac magazines to go digital and playing up the news it will now be standard equipment on future Macs as a major marketing advantage.

      In his new book "Illustrator CS for Dummies," Ted Alspach, Adobe's Group Product Manager for Illustration Products, advises new computer buyers to get a PC: "As of 2003, Windows systems have taken a decisive lead over Macs when it comes to performance. The difference is most apparent with graphics applications such as Photoshop and Illustrator, but you?'ll notice it with other applications as well. If you?'re thinking of purchasing a new system, and speed and responsiveness is important (or at least more important than the feel of the OS, I suggest getting a zippy PC over a (comparably) sluggish Mac.?"

      On Wednesday, Apple seeded Java 1.4.2 Developer Preview 1, as well as a developer package with new headers, docs, demos, and tools. Apple told testers that DP1 replaces Panther's Java installation.
      B♭3

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      • #18
        Mac Bashers = Ignorance
        HAVE A DAY.
        <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
        "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
        For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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        • #19
          It's not bashing, it's laughing at a marginal (but cutely different) little segment of a marketplace with a cult following. Lemmings indeed.
          When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."

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          • #20
            Mac Bashers = Ignorance




            why?
            B♭3

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            • #21
              Mac Bashers = Ignorance
              Three word post without confronting statement = Ignorance as well
              meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                It's not bashing, it's laughing at a marginal (but cutely different) little segment of a marketplace with a cult following. Lemmings indeed.
                Cult? Ha! Microsucks is a cult! Dell is a cult! Intel is a cult! Don't ge me started on this cultic stuff!
                HAVE A DAY.
                <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                • #23
                  Cult? Ha! Microsucks is a cult! Dell is a cult! Intel is a cult! Don't ge me started on this cultic stuff!

                  yeah, you're right.

                  apple isn't a cult, it's a religion, a way of life. at the head of it is the cult of jobs, who wears a funny little pope hat when the picture takers aren't around.
                  B♭3

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Q Cubed
                    Cult? Ha! Microsucks is a cult! Dell is a cult! Intel is a cult! Don't ge me started on this cultic stuff!

                    yeah, you're right.

                    apple isn't a cult, it's a religion, a way of life. at the head of it is the cult of jobs, who wears a funny little pope hat when the picture takers aren't around.
                    Right back at every company in the tech industry and their CEOs!
                    HAVE A DAY.
                    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                    • #25
                      Hey, I commented on topic.
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                        Hey, I commented on topic.
                        Thank you for pointing that out, Monk. That you did! Let's get this thread back on the right track: Back to the Analyst Meeting & Conference Call now.
                        HAVE A DAY.
                        <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                        "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                        For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                        • #27
                          Oh hi!
                          Eventis is the only refuge of the spammer. Join us now.
                          Long live teh paranoia smiley!

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                          • #28
                            This entire thread generates a sigh and a "good grief" from me. So there! Take that!
                            "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I'll die defending your right to say it." — Voltaire

                            "Wheresoever you go, go with all your heart." — Confucius

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                            • #29
                              I must admit, I do see why the Mac Users hid out at Civ Macintosh and used it as their own OT forum...
                              Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MOBIUS
                                I must admit, I do see why the Mac Users hid out at Civ Macintosh and used it as their own OT forum...
                                It would've been much more enjoyable if a certain poster from Calgary hadn't baited us.

                                But enough about that already! Back to the original topic. ?
                                HAVE A DAY.
                                <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                                "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                                For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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