Stryker Vehicles deploy to Iraq.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Well, I doubt 'roos and wallabys would put up much of a fight. I mean, what else is it going to operate against?

[Zylka]

Yes and its claimed to be land mine proof.

Well then I suppose it would do for the Canadian (whatever) recon vehicle replacement. About a million bucks a piece? I suppose we can afford to replace the dozen or so operative lARVs in our military

[Space05us]

Lord knows - personally I think the Bushmaster, at almost a million bucks a pop, is a real stinker too

let me spell out what I said so you can really get it b-u-s-h master...think about it.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
You can't see it in that photo but the hull of the vehicle is V shaped to deflect blast. It also has a high ground clearance.

There used to be a real good set of frozen video frames from a Russian wheeled IFV getting done by a improvised Chechen mine. Blew the ****ing thing ten meters in the air, and the bodies that went flying out (only two visible) went up about 20 meters before coming back down next to what was left of the vehicle. A high ground clearance and V shape won't do much against something like that. Explosives are cheaper on a per pound basis than AFVs.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Well, I doubt 'roos and wallabys would put up much of a fight. I mean, what else is it going to operate against?

Strangely enough somewhere like Iraq. Since 9/11 we changed our defence strategy from continental defence to forward deployment with allies.

[Gangerolf]

They look like those Finnish-built SISUs NATO uses in Kosovo. I haven't heard any complaints.
Of course, they may be better suited in Kosovo which is more of a policing mission than in Iraq which is still pretty much a warzone.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


There used to be a real good set of frozen video frames from a Russian wheeled IFV getting done by a improvised Chechen mine. Blew the ****ing thing ten meters in the air, and the bodies that went flying out (only two visible) went up about 20 meters before coming back down next to what was left of the vehicle. A high ground clearance and V shape won't do much against something like that. Explosives are cheaper on a per pound basis than AFVs.

Er, that film was from Afghanistan. It was filmed by a French film crew during the anti Soviet war. And the explosion wasn't caused by a mine

[DeathByTheSword]

is it just me or are wheeled AFV for urban warfare?

[Az]

a million dollars for THAT?!

One could get 3 medium russian tanks for that money, 2nd hand.

[Kropotkin]

Ha! They should be glad they do not have to deply with one of these (as I do):




(but one the other hand, it does not cost a million dollars. The design is from 1875 btw... no I mean 1975 )

[Gangerolf]

what's that, a limo version of the Volvo Valp?

[Kropotkin]

Sort off, it's the 'modern', 6-wheeled version called Tgb13. There's also a 4-wheeled version called Tgb11. The hull can't stop a spade (believe me, we have tried that) , let alone any form of weapon.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Canadians deploy more often where mines are a major concern. .

Montreal, Quebec, & Calgary?

[Shogun Gunner]

I believe the undercarriage is designed in such a way that a land mine blow "out" and not "up" which causes the axle or tires to blow off, but protects the crew. The maintenance tow vehicle shows up and retrieves/reparis the AFV and out it goes again.

On the other hand, it could be the modern version of the Sherman.

[CerberusIV]

A Stryker costs how much?

An infantry portable guided anti-tank missile costs how much?

An RPG costs how much?

A fanatic to fire the missile comes free.

Uncle Sam pays for the funeral.

If I were thinking of a career in the US military I would join the marines rather than risk being ordered into one of these things (unless they are going to force them on the marines too?).

Incidentally the British Army has used the Scorpion series AFV's for years. They are air portable (RAF have C-130's), tracked and don't exert enough ground pressure to set off most anti-armour mines. If the idea was that good why do we still buy Challenger MBT's.

I read somewhere that the British Army shipped a load of the armoured landrovers they used to use in Northern Ireland out to Iraq. Even they probably give more protection than a Stryker.