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  • #31
    "God forbid that any portrayal of the GOP's mythical superhuman demigod be anything less than a GOP propanda piece of non-stop praise, with any unflattering references edited out."

    CBS's film had Reagan refering to himself as the Anti-Christ and saying about AIDS: "Those who live in sin die in sin"

    A fair portrayl wouldn't have been a problem. Having Reagan say he is the Antichrist is.
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    • #32
      Why? If some white-supremesist wing nut started a project defaming MLK, don't you think people would speak up to put a stop to it sooner rather than later?

      I have to wonder why the script was leaked. Maybe someone wanted other people to know what was being produced, and knew that after the airing would be too late?
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
        "God forbid that any portrayal of the GOP's mythical superhuman demigod be anything less than a GOP propanda piece of non-stop praise, with any unflattering references edited out."

        CBS's film had Reagan refering to himself as the Anti-Christ and saying about AIDS: "Those who live in sin die in sin"

        A fair portrayl wouldn't have been a problem. Having Reagan say he is the Antichrist is.
        The reports I've read on it have mentioned the unauthenticated "those who live in sin die in sin" line regarding AIDS, but I haven't seen any report that cited the script where Reagan referred to himself as the anti-Christ.

        Considering he picked James "We don't have to care for the environment, the Second Coming is at hand" Watt and was the fair haried golden boy of Falwell, et al, I think it odd that anyone trying to discredit Reagan would put in such an absurd piece of dialog.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by notyoueither
          Why? If some white-supremesist wing nut started a project defaming MLK, don't you think people would speak up to put a stop to it sooner rather than later?

          I have to wonder why the script was leaked. Maybe someone wanted other people to know what was being produced, and knew that after the airing would be too late?
          You think there haven't been hatchet pieces on MLK? And lots of others, on every side of the spectrum? And if some white supremacist wingnuts do a hatchet piece, let it get aired and let people make their own judgments. And if they want to respond, in any manner not illegal, let them do that to.
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          • #35
            So, you don't think there would be efforts to effect production prior to release if the script were leaked?

            Why not?
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            • #36
              Imran - it's a bit different to boycott sponsors or broadcasters after the airing, or if there's a pre-screening of the finished product than it is to start a PR, media and boycott threat, intimidation and what have you campaign before a project is even finished production.


              They've seen the script.. which is what touched off the whole thing. Face it, this is just a smarter boycott .
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              • #37
                Originally posted by notyoueither
                So, you don't think there would be efforts to effect production prior to release if the script were leaked?

                Why not?
                Did I say that?

                Since I didn't say that, did I say that leftists or anyone else trying to spin and propagandize productions prior to release is ok, but it's not ok when rightwingers do it?

                If anyone has an alternate view, let them produce and air it. Then let the viewers decide.
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                • #38
                  No, you said that it should get aired, and then people should speak up. Why shouldn't they speak up prior to airing if they have the script and know what is to be said?
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                  • #39
                    Do they have the script? Really? Has it been published by it's authors? Is the purported copy of the script they allegedly have an accurate and complete copy that reflects the edited final product? We won't ever know, funny that, because "leverage" has been applied pre-release, to make sure we never get to see something that some nice, upstanding people would prefer us not to see.

                    Gee, I like that system.
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                    • #40
                      Excerpt of article from The Drudge Report:

                      XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX NOV 02, 2003 19:45:18 ET XXXXX

                      STREISAND DRAWS DISTANCE FROM 'REAGANS'; CBS CONSIDERS NEWS SUPPLEMENT; MORE SCENES REVEALED

                      **Exclusive Details**

                      SingerActorDirectorProducerMotherActivist Barbra Streisand this weekend distanced herself from any involvement in CBS-TV's upcoming film THE REAGANS, although the film stars her husband and is being produced by Streisand frequent collaborators, Craig Zadan and Neil Meron.

                      "Ms. Streisand has never even read the script!" Streisand declared on her website's Truth Alert [leading readers to believe that she first became aware of multiple, specific script scenes from the DRUDGE REPORT.]

                      Controversy continues to swirl around the movie, set for air later this month, with CBS now considering a "news supplement" addition tagged to the end of the two-part film, to both fill time from late edits made to the project, and to cool cries of heavy-handed political bias at the network.

                      Meanwhile, Reagan daughter Patty Davis is considering a public comment of concern over liberties taken by CBS in telling the story of Ronald and Nancy Reagan.

                      CBS's senior vice president of movies and miniseries, Bela Bajaria, is being blamed internally at the network for the growing backlash against the project, CBS sources said this weekend.

                      "Look, it was going to be about the Reagans and their family," a senior network source said. "A love story! We lost control of it... it transformed. Politics was seasoned in. What was delivered is not what was pitched to me or anyone else here, that I am aware of."

                      Bajaria told the LOS ANGELES TIMES last summer that in REAGANS she wanted to tell "an amazing love story that spans four decades."

                      "We don't expect this to be controversial," she explained.

                      ****
                      Drudge still has all the script quotes up.

                      He had audio clips on his radio program.
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • #41
                        I would have preferred to view the movie and make up my own mind but, alas, the righteous, God-fearing, Reagan-loving American people have spoke up and decided for me.

                        Thank God I don't have to think. I'm safe with them on my side.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                          Do they have the script? Really? Has it been published by it's authors? Is the purported copy of the script they allegedly have an accurate and complete copy that reflects the edited final product? We won't ever know, funny that, because "leverage" has been applied pre-release, to make sure we never get to see something that some nice, upstanding people would prefer us not to see.

                          Gee, I like that system.
                          Which system? The one where only artists and corporate honchos get to express themselves? Or the one where everyone gets a say whenever they want to have a say?
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                          • #43
                            CBS can do what they want. They decided to pull the film. The public can do what they want as well. Free speech in action. I don't see any problem here.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
                              What would you say if someone ran a biography about FDR and had him say that he purposefully ignored the the Holocaust? Or had LBJ say that his Great Society was no more than BS for the voters? Would that come under free speech or slander?
                              I agree that anything based on true events should be kept as close as possible to the truth, but I don't think your examples count as slander any more than the movies 'Pearl Harbor' or 'Enigma' or 'U(whatever number it was)' etc etc were slander. Why is this any different from them?

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                              • #45
                                Hmm. Carl Sagan died in 1996.

                                he lived in the same building, same dorm, same house that i live in at uchicago.
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