Originally posted by johncmcleod
OK, Reagan used his good rhetorical skills to feed Americans the propaganda they wanted to hear. They didn't want to know that we were bad. So, he got the whole country thinking America was so great, and it made the American public stop questioning things and allowed the government to get away with a lot more. It also led to even less vigorous political participation (by participation I mean researching the issues, listening to the viewpoints of different perspectives, and actually thinking about the decisions the US was making) which is never a good thing in a democracy.
So, it ended up leading to Americans feeling better about themselves and the rest of the world made worse from suffering the problems of US intervention because Americans couldn't question their government and stop it from doing it. I don't see how that makes him a good leader.
I have never been able to get a clear, well supported opinion of how good Reagan's economic policies were. When people talk about it they are always very vague and don't back up what they're saying with specific examples.
I was born in 87, but from what I know Reagan cut services that really helped people, and then cut taxes that put us in a deficit so terrible it could have caused some gigantic problems but we got lucky and lived through it. He also gave big tax breaks to the corporate billionaires who have never worked a hard day in their live and make ridiculous sums of money from brainwashing people to buy their product, not to mention all of the unethical business practices, all while there are people who live in ghettos and are lucky to graduate from high school. Is this the kind of society we want? Reagan than simply made himself look good by saying that the money would trickle down to the poor, when he really could have not made the tax cuts and let the people keep the services they really needed.
Reagan also caused a whole lot of people to be oppressed and a whole lot of violence down in Central America by backing terrorist wars and other atrocities to help out American businessmen. I believe he also backed UNITA and Renamo terrorists in Mazambique and South Africa that caused an estimated 1.5 million and 60 billion dollars worth of damage. He also wholeheartedly supported the genocide of the East Timorese and also gave the Indonesians the weapons (some chemical) to do so, though Carter did more of this than Reagan. He also supported the Baathists, and I think he was the one that gave them the list of thousands of 'Communists' that were then murdered. He also backed brutal terrorist/fascist organizations in Eastern Europe to help destroy the USSR, not to free its people but merely for US interests.
And I must say, Mr. Fun-your quote is a classic! It's sig material and I would put it in my signature but it doesn't have any more room.
OK, Reagan used his good rhetorical skills to feed Americans the propaganda they wanted to hear. They didn't want to know that we were bad. So, he got the whole country thinking America was so great, and it made the American public stop questioning things and allowed the government to get away with a lot more. It also led to even less vigorous political participation (by participation I mean researching the issues, listening to the viewpoints of different perspectives, and actually thinking about the decisions the US was making) which is never a good thing in a democracy.
So, it ended up leading to Americans feeling better about themselves and the rest of the world made worse from suffering the problems of US intervention because Americans couldn't question their government and stop it from doing it. I don't see how that makes him a good leader.
I have never been able to get a clear, well supported opinion of how good Reagan's economic policies were. When people talk about it they are always very vague and don't back up what they're saying with specific examples.
I was born in 87, but from what I know Reagan cut services that really helped people, and then cut taxes that put us in a deficit so terrible it could have caused some gigantic problems but we got lucky and lived through it. He also gave big tax breaks to the corporate billionaires who have never worked a hard day in their live and make ridiculous sums of money from brainwashing people to buy their product, not to mention all of the unethical business practices, all while there are people who live in ghettos and are lucky to graduate from high school. Is this the kind of society we want? Reagan than simply made himself look good by saying that the money would trickle down to the poor, when he really could have not made the tax cuts and let the people keep the services they really needed.
Reagan also caused a whole lot of people to be oppressed and a whole lot of violence down in Central America by backing terrorist wars and other atrocities to help out American businessmen. I believe he also backed UNITA and Renamo terrorists in Mazambique and South Africa that caused an estimated 1.5 million and 60 billion dollars worth of damage. He also wholeheartedly supported the genocide of the East Timorese and also gave the Indonesians the weapons (some chemical) to do so, though Carter did more of this than Reagan. He also supported the Baathists, and I think he was the one that gave them the list of thousands of 'Communists' that were then murdered. He also backed brutal terrorist/fascist organizations in Eastern Europe to help destroy the USSR, not to free its people but merely for US interests.
And I must say, Mr. Fun-your quote is a classic! It's sig material and I would put it in my signature but it doesn't have any more room.


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