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  • #106
    Originally posted by HershOstropoler
    "porous national borders"

    No porous Iraqi borders?
    If they want to drive a truck convoy with AAM's, RPG rounds and plastic explosives down a main highway, I suppose we could afford to fill in the craters and repair the roads after the fact. And I'm sure we could find a way to express our "gratitude" to whichever national government allowed such a convoy to pass from it's borders.

    If Abdul the goatherd wants to walk one at a time over, that's a samll enough flow that trained Iraqis can handle, and not a large enough flow of materiel to threaten the US mission.
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    • #107
      It will still be enough for a terror campiagn. And that's all it will take.

      How high is your loss tolerance? I would have said 2000-5000 dead until withdrawal, though maybe less now...
      “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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      • #108
        Originally posted by Kropotkin
        Aha, so you don't think the sunni triangle has porous borders?
        Lots of nice open desert, except for that nearly impassable marshland between the rivers, and lots of nice checkpoints along the roads. Plus the majority of people outside the Sunni triangle aren't fond of the *******s located primarily in the triangle, so the number of people who will risk their lives helping *******s who are their former oppressors is likely to be considerably less than the number of people who won't mind earning rewards for helping us burn the *******s.
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        • #109
          "Plus the majority of people outside the Sunni triangle aren't fond of the *******s located primarily in the triangle"

          Depends on the level of hatred you will have built up by then.
          “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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          • #110
            Originally posted by HershOstropoler
            It will still be enough for a terror campiagn. And that's all it will take.

            How high is your loss tolerance? I would have said 2000-5000 dead until withdrawal, though maybe less now...
            the Iraqis can handle the terror campaign aspect in time. You can't reliably prevent somebody from blowing something up in Vienna, if they're so inclined, and we can't achieve perfect security either. We just need to starve off organized resistance to a point where the locals' security forces will be able to handle the smaller scale stuff.

            Right now, there's no need to go outside for your shopping list, because anything you want can be had by the ton all over Iraq. That's the large scale problem we need to handle aggressively.

            As far as loss tolerance? It depends on the 2004 election.
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            • #111
              "the Iraqis can handle the terror campaign aspect in time."

              I have serious doubts on that, to put it mildly.
              “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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              • #112
                Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                "Plus the majority of people outside the Sunni triangle aren't fond of the *******s located primarily in the triangle"

                Depends on the level of hatred you will have built up by then.
                Outside the triangle, we don't seem to be building up very much. Inside the triangle, it's a mixed bag, with a lot of different reactions to us and reasons for those reactions.
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                • #113
                  The shiites want you out too, don't you think? They're just a tad more patient...
                  “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                  • #114
                    Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                    "the Iraqis can handle the terror campaign aspect in time."

                    I have serious doubts on that, to put it mildly.
                    Well, ultimately, they'll be the ones getting blown up, so they'll be incentivized. I'm just concerned with completing our phase.
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                    • #115
                      Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                      The shiites want you out too, don't you think? They're just a tad more patient...
                      Oh, of course. But we can buy them off for a while.
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                      • #116
                        "Well, ultimately, they'll be the ones getting blown up, so they'll be incentivized."

                        Or look the other way for a little bakshish.
                        “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                        • #117
                          This event must be the largest victory for the Iraqi resistance so far.
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                          • #118
                            Originally posted by HershOstropoler
                            "Well, ultimately, they'll be the ones getting blown up, so they'll be incentivized."

                            Or look the other way for a little bakshish.
                            Bakshish goes both ways. I bet we have a little more in our bank accounts to give away.
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                            • #119
                              "I bet we have a little more in our bank accounts to give away."

                              Yeah, if you could only talk to the locals...
                              “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                              • #120
                                Well, I'm sure our brilliant national leadership had that one all worked out over the last decade or so. The need for arabic language specialists was just sooooooo hard to predict.
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