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  • #31
    Re: Ok, This Is Bull****. Rebels Attack; Int'l Groups Bolt Baghdad

    Originally quoted by SlowwHand
    By SLOBODAN LEKIC, Associated Press Writer

    BAGHDAD, Iraq
    No casualties were reported, but the attack sparked a frenzy of looting by Iraqis who carried off computers, tents, bottled water and other supplies.


    The Red Cross withdrawal came despite a personal appeal by Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) to remain in Baghdad because "if they are driven out, then the terrorists win."
    WTF

    The Red Cross is not there to fight terrorism!
    Has he lost his mind?

    Great, now both the terrorists AND the US are drawing the Red Cross into the conflict.
    "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
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    • #32
      BTW, I thought in Moslem countries, it's Red Crescent, not Red Cross.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #33
        What the hell is so funny about what you quoted, germanos?
        Are you mentally damned challenged, or what?
        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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        • #34
          Oh, come on Slowwhand, just imagine the scenery, will you...
          "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
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          • #35
            Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


            Most likely, we really don't want either low-morale poorly trained, poorly fed, former conscripts, nor do we want professionals with unknown political reliability.

            Sorting out a new Iraqi military force and training it is a very difficult job, especially since we have relatively few really qualified arabic interpreters, and the best of those will have far more urgent jobs.

            We've been (or should have been) vetting them for the last 6 months. and i dont see why theyd be poorly fed now, any more than any other Iraqis, just cause they were poorly fed back when they were in the army. And I dont see why they should be any poorer in morale than anybody else we recruit. And theyre at least better trained than any teen militias.

            Im not saying it doesnt take cost and effort, Im trying to understand Gueveras assertion based on NPR that the US is using teen militiamen.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by chegitz guevara
              BTW, I thought in Moslem countries, it's Red Crescent, not Red Cross.
              Its the International Red Cross (based in Geneva) not the local group.
              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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              • #37
                AND

                Frenzy makes me laugh by itself

                [germanos jumps in Screamin' Jay Hawkins mode]
                Frrrenyyyyyy...
                "post reported"Winston, on the barricades for freedom of speech
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by lord of the mark
                  Im not saying it doesnt take cost and effort, Im trying to understand Gueveras assertion based on NPR that the US is using teen militiamen.
                  Some of them are teens, which, BTW, is a violation of the Geneva Code (assuming they're under 18).
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • #39
                    Enlistment minimum age is 17.
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by lord of the mark
                      We've been (or should have been) vetting them for the last 6 months.
                      "Or should have been" is more like it. Lower field grade officers wouldn't rate a lot of notice, given our resource limitations in intel gathering. And SF and ISS types billeted amongst the draftees would be fairly hard to detect. It's not like they have a nice Army personnel system all ready for us to use, so we can track down everyone by his military ID card.

                      and i dont see why theyd be poorly fed now, any more than any other Iraqis, just cause they were poorly fed back when they were in the army.
                      Did they get fed and paid immediately once we took over in April, or were things in a pretty dicey state for a while?

                      And I dont see why they should be any poorer in morale than anybody else we recruit.
                      If you were familiar with the early days of the post-Vietnam US volunteer force, you'd understand that one a lot better. For our purposes, the less they know about "military service" the less they have to unlearn.

                      Im not saying it doesnt take cost and effort, Im trying to understand Gueveras assertion based on NPR that the US is using teen militiamen.
                      I didn't hear that one, so I don't know the basis for it.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by centrifuge
                        How on earth can you back up that statement...
                        If al-Qaeda's objective was to make the US more of a police state, they were successful.

                        Now, al-Qaeda was allegedly behind the 9-11 attack, but bin Laden never acknowledged it.
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                        • #42


                          The only thing he didn't do was a Perry Mason rerun style "I confess" in the middle of the courtroom.

                          And the level of "policestateness" is still one hell of a lot lower than some other place I could mention...
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                          • #43
                            It is all a very sad state of affairs when people go to help others in a war zone and are then shoked that they get shot at...

                            I am just glad that these Red cross types were not around for WW1, WW2, Korea or Rwanda...

                            Ah well they are save in their motel rooms by now...

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                            • #44
                              you really dont have any idea what youre talking about, have you Paddy
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                                The only thing he didn't do was a Perry Mason rerun style "I confess" in the middle of the courtroom.
                                Still, the nagging question is, why doesn't he brag about it?

                                Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
                                And the level of "policestateness" is still one hell of a lot lower than some other place I could mention...
                                It's progress vs regress
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                                (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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