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  • #16
    Geforce FX5900, although I am very concerned about this HL2 issue...what is the deal there? Sounds very suspect...
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    • #17
      I always buy the best card, regardless of company
      The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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      • #18
        That is very mercenary...although true. Last time I bought an AMD, this time and the time before last I bought an Intel...depends on who has the best processor at my price range...

        Now the whole ATI vs NVIDIA thing is a lot more subjective though...there seems to be arguments either way, and it depends on the game. Although perhaps someone would like to explain what is going on with the HL2 issue. I mean, which one is the best often changes back and forth depending on the engine involves, but to be half the power - well that is just plain suspect, and dare I say it, even suggests rigging...
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        • #19
          may the best technology win: it's always pure power, followed by drivers.

          if ATi and nVidia had equally powerful cards, i'd probably go nVidia simply because their drivers are so much better.

          since ATi has the better card now, i'd probably go for them.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
            ATI all the way...i have a Radeon 9600 Pro.......
            I've got the same card... I knew I should have bought nVidia... for now I haven't seen the good parts of this card yet... while it have given me lots of trouble...
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            • #21
              I've got the same card, installed it, upgraded my drivers, never had a problem since.

              Maybe you should do a clean install.
              Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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              • #22
                I will, but I can't do it before Christmas Holliday... have to be 100% sure my computer has all neccesary programs installed during the exams, and can't waste time on that...
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Asher
                  Obviously you haven't heard about Nvidia's cards being half the speed as equivalent ATI cards in HL2 then.
                  Tests with the GeForce FX cards are irrelevant to me. Plus, a lot of those "tests" are BS and don't really reflect what most PC's do. They build bare-bones PC's just built for tests, tweak them to the max, them run just one game like a drag race. Then one company gets all excited when they win.

                  OMFG we 0wNZER j00 we had 161 fps to your 155...

                  I'm more concerned about value, reliability, and compatability. As I said before, ATI has failed me in all three of those. And my last two cards GF2 and GF4 have been great. That's just my experience, though. Everyone will have a different one. And to each his own.
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                  • #24
                    Well I must admit, I have never had any bother with GeForces, but I have no experience of ATI so I couldn't say how they behave...
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Sava
                      OMFG we 0wNZER j00 we had 161 fps to your 155...
                      In HL2 it was more like the 9800 Pro got 60fps and the GeForce FX 5900 got 30fps...and since this is average framerate, that's a problem.

                      Supposedly the new 52.xx drivers significantly boost performance, but I've yet to see benchmarks of them in HL2.
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                      • #26
                        ATI:
                        Antialiasing better than nVidia's
                        Great performance (still priced equal with nVidia)
                        Look to have the better DX9 architecture (nVidia needs highly optimized code paths, even Carmack pointed that out)
                        Questionable driver stability (though I dont believe they are **** anymore, they are back in business now for long enough)

                        nVidia:
                        long experience in 3D market
                        wide industry support
                        Anisotropic Filtering better than that of ATI
                        CineFX (DX9) Architecture seems to be inferior to ATI's
                        Cheating for better results in benchmarks
                        spooky benchmark results (R9600Pro better than FX5900 Ultra sure makes me wonder!!)

                        ata

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                        • #27
                          ATI has done it's fair share of cheating too, mainly to get more FPS than GeForce in Quake3. Remember those "Quack3" benchmarks?
                          The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.

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                          • #28
                            ATI and NVidia benchmark almost exactly the same, so why not go with the card that makes less noise and doesn't take up a PCI slot?

                            ATI all the way.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Atahualpa
                              nVidia:
                              long experience in 3D market
                              ATI has been around longer, no?

                              Anisotropic Filtering better than that of ATI
                              I've always considered ATI's better -- it looks the same and takes a far smaller performance hit.
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                              • #30
                                On a somewhat related issue. how can I tell if my system will support such a new graphics card?

                                Thanks

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