Atheists offended by teddy bears...

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Jamski
Nope, they're just pissed at seeing crosses EVERYWHERE, and people saying "God bless ____" and Xmas, and Easter, and St Patrick's Day. For an athiest its HELLISH having all this Christian stuff hanging around. If you are a Christian, imagine it the other way round - living as a Christian in an Athiest world. People would laugh at you for giving Xmas presents etc...

Walk a mile in the other guys shoes... (most atheists were brought up as Christians, so they have already seen the others side)

-Jam

Only ass holes whine at everything under the sun. If you dont like Christmas, dont celebrate. I dont. I dont ***** and moan about it.

[MikeH]

I do live in an athiest world.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by MikeH
I do live in an athiest world.

I thought you lived in a material world?

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
I wonder what would happen if someone put up an atheist monument? Something onthe order of:
"John, Jane, Billy and Susie Doe and "Spot"
Killed here *** **, ****
Gone and definitely just gone
Not in heaven, nope, not at all
Just dead as dead can be
You better believe it
So wise up dummy, and move on along
There's nothing to see here"

I want that on my tombstone

Well Lincoln, it does seem enormous insensitive how these people are carrying on. It is not an issue of religion but an issue of a family mourning the loss of their loved ones. This isn't an issue of religion, just one of plain unnecessary pettiness...

[Kropotkin]

Same thing, isn't it?

[MikeH]

Originally posted by Sprayber


I thought you lived in a material world?

'cause I am a material girl?

Point.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by MikeH


'cause I am a material girl?

Point.

No point here. Move along now.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Jamski


How is a road accident an anti-religious attack? WTF?

-Jam

Please, don't play stupid -- the accidents were not anti-religious attacks.

The whining and moaning by atheists who are so insecure with themselves that they have to protest personal memorials are doing the anti-religious attaacks.

[Spiffor]

I am a qure atheist, but I don't think there is anything wrong in erecting religious memorials, as long as they don't damage the landscape and as long as they aren't dangerous for the drivers. Atheist memorials (cause atheists can mourn their dead too) are exactly the same in my book.

We live in Christian societies that are still deeply influenced by their christian history. As a result, it is normal to see tons of Christian symbols here and there. If you lived in a Muslim country, you'd see tons of Muslim symbols too. I don't think it is a reason to complain, as long as you're free n ot to believe, as long as you're not forced to have religion taught to you, as long as the State doesn't condone or condemn any religion in any form.

In the case of our teddy bears, it would be very awkward if the State made memorials speaking about heaven and God. But if they are done by individuals, and if they don't cause problems to the living, I see no problem with these memorials.

BTW, there is a deadly road near Bordeaux that is covered by memorials paid by local authorities. Said 'memorials' are silhouettes shaped from the dead of car accidents. It is very spooky and awkward, despite being completely nonreligious. I'd take a cross or a teddy bear anyday over those

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by MikeH
'cause I am a material girl?

Point.

Does that mean that you are like a virgin?

[FrustratedPoet]

BTW, there is a deadly road near Bordeaux that is covered by memorials paid by local authorities.

Didn't it occur to them to spend all that money on making the road a little less deadly?

[Elok]

They have no case because the point of "Roadkill Shrines," as we call them in my family, is not directly to endorse religion but to remember the person who died at that spot. Religious statements happen to be a definite facet of remembering the dead for many people.

I don't know rhetorical devices too well; I know strawman and ad hominem, but what do you call it when people try to prop up a bad argument with a sound one? A logic-crutch? That seems to be what's going on here. The only sound argument they have is that state troopers are supposed to remove all roadside postings put up without license, and they're using it to ignore the first amendment rights of others while advancing their own.

[MrFun]

Now if local communities are paying for memorials at the expense of making their part of the roads safer, that's a different story.

[rixxe]

Originally posted by Spiffor
BTW, there is a deadly road near Bordeaux that is covered by memorials paid by local authorities. Said 'memorials' are silhouettes shaped from the dead of car accidents. It is very spooky and awkward, despite being completely nonreligious. I'd take a cross or a teddy bear anyday over those

I saw them last time I went to Belfort.

Originally posted by FrustratedPoetDidn't it occur to them to spend all that money on making the road a little less deadly?

It's not the roads that are deadly, it's the people driving on them.
I heard a few days ago that there's like 25% less deaths on the french roads compared to last year.

[Az]

what does this have to do with atheism?