I do not believe it..!

[st_swithin]

maybe provocateurware was too long, too hard to spell, or already taken.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Spiffor
BTW, if you want to know the mentality of electronic advertizers, I stongly advise you to browse http://www.e-advertize.com (there is an English version, just click on the British flag). These *******s provide tools for spammers, and they flaunt the fact that nobody can trace the spammer back :angy:

Mail headers can always be traced, they're just hiding the easy part.

[Spiffor]

I would really appreciate it if you could teach us

[mrmitchell]

Gator Corporation is the scum of the Earth, and this is so unbelievably ridiculous that...well...it's ridiculous.

I read another article that Gator'd countersued against websites that wanted it shut down. Unfortunately, spyware is completely legal as far as I can tell, just as long as certain keywords aren't specifically placed with ads (i.e. "Bank of America" goes along with "CheapCreditNow.com Get your credit report now quick and fast".)

But Gator does that, so fortunately we can still label them as evil scum who should be drawn and quartered.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Spiffor
I would really appreciate it if you could teach us

When I get to a computer where I have mail, I'll post some.

You could also probably google some information on SMTP headers and SMTP and EXIM in general.

[Spiffor]

Well, I've read this page, and I compared with the SMTP headers of mails coming from spammers or from my friends, and I haven't understood much

Besides, there seem to be no way to know the actual street adress of the spammer to go indulge some vigilante justice on him

[Q Classic]

how 'bout we call it fvckware? because that's precisely what it does.

we run xpsp1 on many different types of computers, and when something breaks, more often than not it's because the idiot kids or teachers downloaded spyware like gator's "precisiontime" (it breaks some of the time-based encryption/authentication).

it's gotten so bad that we've had to restrict activex scripts so strictly that soem educational sites that they go to don't work, and i have to have a computer outside the domain download all the patches to put on SUS because windows/office updates don't work.

[Bereta_Eder]

Kazaa is evil. Kazaa lite is ok.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
it's gotten so bad that we've had to restrict activex scripts so strictly that soem educational sites that they go to don't work

That's why they should use Java applets instead.

[Nubclear]

Ugh. Java should go under fvckware as well.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Well, I've read this page, and I compared with the SMTP headers of mails coming from spammers or from my friends, and I haven't understood much

Okay, first of all, you need to look at the full header. The return path is what you are looking for, because it is generated by mail servers between you and whoever sent the crap. It cannot be forged.

Originally posted by Spiffor
Besides, there seem to be no way to know the actual street adress of the spammer to go indulge some vigilante justice on him

Actually, you can. Once you find out the IP of the spammer, do a reverse DNS lookup. Then do a whois search on the domain name. The record will show you where the company is.

[:) Smiley]

The people at Gator are kind of late to be doing this though, for many people Gator is the first thing that comes to mind. It would be similar to GM saying they're not a car company.

[Paddy]

Down the gurgler with gator...

[DaShi]

Re: Re: I do not believe it..!

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
I never download that type of crap, but I do get gator cookies attempting to install from 3rd party sites every so often.

Like this site

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
Ugh. Java should go under fvckware as well.

It seems that you don't understand what I said. Which is perfectly acceptable, of course.