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  • Here's where your $30 billion in tax dollars went...

    To a space station that is not yet fully built and already has so many malfunctioning yet unfixed parts that the doctors recommend against occupying it.

    I want my money back!

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  • #2
    This is just par for the course on government work.
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    • #3
      /me supports the space station
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      • #4
        /me agrees with Oerdin

        /me actually thinks that, for government work, it is going quite well

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Oerdin
          This is just par for the course on government work.
          You also have to remember that the Russians are involved in building the space station too. I would not trust the Russian stuff all that much. It is mainly because of them the space station is not yet finished.
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          • #6
            I support the space station in general, but NASA sending people up despite warnings of safety problems even AFTER what happened earlier this year makes me think something is seriously wrong with them.
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            • #7
              It's also because we wouldn't commit the resources, and now things are halfassed and bandaided along since we no longer have any delivery capability to get up there.

              Getting something that big and getting it up into orbit and running it as much as it has ain't cheap, and it's a major technological milestone for future exploration.

              There's really two choices, because no private venture will ever put up that kind of money - belly up to the bar and commit to it fully, or give up.

              Considering we're pissing away far more than that in Iraq for mixed results and muddled reasons, I don't thing 30 billion over several years on the ISS is that out of line.
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              • #8
                You guys are way too charitable. The space station is a fiscal black hole that has reduced NASA's flexibility to do other cool stuff.

                A new space shuttle design and fleet would have cost half as much, for instance. But if we were to want to do that now, we would have to fully maintain two reusable launch vehicle programs for a couple of years because we couldn't have any time gap between the two.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #9
                  A lot of money has already been pissed away on space planes and next generation shuttles, with no workable design emerging. So why would scrapping the ISS have resulted in a workable design?

                  Besides, there's a half trillion deficit already, why can't we throw a little more pork in NASA, and Lockheed Martin's direction?
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                  • #10
                    A lot of money has already been pissed away on space planes and next generation shuttles, with no workable design emerging.
                    While a lot of money, you're talking a couple of billion dollars of waste rather than $30 billion of waste.

                    Besides, there's a half trillion deficit already, why can't we throw a little more pork in NASA, and Lockheed Martin's direction?
                    Both NASA and LM need fed, but I would rather have them doing more worthwhile work while being fed.
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                    • #11
                      I get the impression that NASA should be run on a more cost benefit basis. Choose projects, sub-projects or even the very basic things like equipment that will use the money most efficiently. They appear to worry about budgets (i.e not overspending) rather than about bang for bucks. Stitch in time, and all that.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DanS
                        You guys are way too charitable. The space station is a fiscal black hole that has reduced NASA's flexibility to do other cool stuff.

                        A new space shuttle design and fleet would have cost half as much, for instance. But if we were to want to do that now, we would have to fully maintain two reusable launch vehicle programs for a couple of years because we couldn't have any time gap between the two.
                        NASA couldn't convert 1:1 funding from space station into other programs. the space station infact is probably still a good money getter for them.

                        tho scrapping the shuttle is long overdue.

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                        • #13
                          There's really two choices, because no private venture will ever put up that kind of money
                          Umm...that's the point

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                          • #14
                            You know where our tax dollars are really going? That damn new $20 dollar bill commercial.
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                            • #15
                              Hmm...that would be the government advertising the new $20 bill...

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