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[Spiffor]

Originally written by Paul Krugman
When times are tough, Mr. Mahathir also throws the Muslim majority rhetorical red meat.

This is actually much more worrying than if he actually believed this crap. That means antisemitism keeps the population calm in Malaysia. THIS is actually a real worry

[Tripledoc]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


then let me clarify

based on what you say ( i havent seen the quote) Norquist was using the holocaust as metaphor, and trivializing it. This is unfortunately not uncommon at all - "the feminazis wont let me say sexist remarks" or "my boss at the plant is like Hitler" Its stupid, its in bad taste, but its not antisemitism, and has no real effect on anything much.

What Matahir did was to proclaim a war of Muslims against Jews, to claim Jews ran the world, etc. A far different thing.

There is a difference. Norquist is a public figure. He said it on a radio talk show. He has influence. He is one among the few who are the power behind the throne. you know what kind of sentiments he is talking too. It is those who think 'oh no Big Government, UN, ZOG, and what have you'. He is creating a sense of paranoia. The bad people are out to get us, and they want to put us into camps and so on.

It is acceptable that people make jokes about the Nazis. However when you have a policy which says that what the American tax payer has to endure is in any way comparable to the Holocaust, then this is so far out I can't believe it.

Also Mahatnir did not invent this whole the 'the Muslims against the Jews' scenario. In fact, and this is where I can't agree with him, something Krugman of NY Times alludes too also, Mahatnir is actually agreeing with what people like Samuel Huntington for instance has tried to push for all along: that is a 'battle between civilizations' which will eventually engulf the whole world. The whole issue of pointing out his alleged anti-semitic remarks distracts from the real issue at hand, namely that Mahatnir is simply yet another conservative who wish for another (cold) World War. He is playing the game Sharon and Bush want him to play - pushing the worlds into monolithic opposing camps.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Tripledoc


There is a difference. Norquist is a public figure. He said it on a radio talk show. He has influence. He is one among the few who are the power behind the throne. you know what kind of sentiments he is talking too. It is those who think 'oh no Big Government, UN, ZOG, and what have you'. He is creating a sense of paranoia. The bad people are out to get us, and they want to put us into camps and so on.

It is acceptable that people make jokes about the Nazis. However when you have a policy which says that what the American tax payer has to endure is in any way comparable to the Holocaust, then this is so far out I can't believe it.

Also Mahatnir did not invent this whole the 'the Muslims against the Jews' scenario. In fact, and this is where I can't agree with him, something Krugman of NY Times alludes too also, Mahatnir is actually agreeing with what people like Samuel Huntington for instance has tried to push for all along: that is a 'battle between civilizations' which will eventually engulf the whole world. The whole issue of pointing out his alleged anti-semitic remarks distracts from the real issue at hand, namely that Mahatnir is simply yet another conservative who wish for another (cold) World War. He is playing the game Sharon and Bush want him to play - pushing the worlds into monolithic opposing camps.

hi ,

neither Sharon or Bush want him to play any games at all , ......

have a nice day

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Spiffor

Originally written by Paul Krugman
When times are tough, Mr. Mahathir also throws the Muslim majority rhetorical red meat.

This is actually much more worrying than if he actually believed this crap. That means antisemitism keeps the population calm in Malaysia. THIS is actually a real worry

Ditto.