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    The German foreign office has told the German tourists who had been taken hostage in the Sahara desert this year by Islamic militants that they must pay for being rescued. The German government says that they had a travel advisory listed and that they had warned all German citizens against traveling in the Algerian desert because of the known risk posed by Islamic terror organizations oppurating there. These tourists ignored their government's warnings and went anyway so now the government is asking they repay a very small portion of the costs associated with rescuing them.

    Of course the tourists feel that it is the government's responsibility to bail them out even if they refuse to listen to government warnings. They completely object to being billed 2300 Euros (around $2500) for the military oppuration which rescued them from Arab terrorists who had plotted to kill their captives if a ransom wasn't paid.

    Personally, I see this as individuals doing irresponsible acts and who should be forced to pay for their actions. In my mind this is very similar to the lazy fat slob who hasn't gotten off the coach in 20 years and who thinks he's going to day hike the Grand Canyon without any water bottles. When the idiot gets into trouble he should be billed for the expense of a helicopter coming to pick his fat ass up. These idiots should be glade their government was willing to save their bacon when they were to pig headed to listen to advice and they should think of the 2300 Euro charge as being the costs of learning things the hard way.


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    I'm sure the bill will be what enlightens them.
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    • #3
      I think this is a dumb fight for the gov't.
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      • #4
        I agree, someone who ignores warnings and puts themselves and the people the rescue them at risk should pay some of the cost invovled.

        Here in the LA country(United States) I think the Sheriffs department charges people who they resue by helicopter out of the woods or other places in the middle of no were. I forget the exact details or if they do it at all anymore.
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        • #5
          So you think the tax payer should pick up the tab for people who act stupidly? I'm thinking if you're warned but you do it any way then you are doing it at your own risk and your own cost.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by DanS
            I think this is a dumb fight for the gov't.
            Why?
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            • #7
              The German government would be right if together with the warning, they would have told that people have to pay for their rescue. Not after the fact.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hueij
                The German government would be right if together with the warning, they would have told that people have to pay for their rescue. Not after the fact.
                Other tourists have been asked to pay in the past, I don't see why these people should be any different.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Oerdin
                  So you think the tax payer should pick up the tab for people who act stupidly? I'm thinking if you're warned but you do it any way then you are doing it at your own risk and your own cost.
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                  • #10
                    Why?
                    Because it's bad press, doesn't have much detterent value, and the invoicing probably costs more to administer than is recovered.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Oerdin
                      So you think the tax payer should pick up the tab for people who act stupidly?
                      dannubis kind of beat me to it, but isn't that what taxes are for?
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                      • #12
                        I have no problem with this. They ignored the warning and should pay the price for their stupidity/stuborness.
                        It's not like they asked them to pay full price. 2500 isn't that much to pay for being saved.
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                        • #13
                          If they don't pay, they could hand them back to the kidnappers.
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                          • #14
                            IIRC, it was an advisory, and German citizens were NOT forbidden to go to Algeria. The distincton between the two should be made.

                            There was also a dutch guy among the hostages, and the day they were freed, this question popped up in the press here, as it was raised in Germany before.

                            The Dutch goverment rarely puts out restrections for dutch citizens to travel abroad, and they usually only go as far as telling people there are risks involved travelling to other countries, not outright banning them to go.

                            As long as my government doesn't ban me to go anywhere, but merely states there are (great) risks involved going to that country, then I will expect from my government that they wll do anything in their power to get me out, and I expect to receive regular consulatory (is that a word? well, it is now )services.

                            Obviously, many governments don't go as far as banning travel to certain countries, as it would 'persuade' many people to cancel the trips they booked, and all the insurance companies would have to pay up to either the transporters or customers who take the 'annullement' clauses in the contracts.

                            Bottomline:
                            The German and Dutch government rather not burn their fingers on such tricky subjects, and now for once they have blisters on their hands: tough for them!

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                            • #15
                              @ chegitz: sig material
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