Movies that haven't stood the test of time...

[Dry]

Originally posted by JohnT
And this is my problem with Kwai. While it is not about race relations, the assumption of British racial and cultural superiority viz the Japanese is evident in almost every conflict dealing with the main conflict (Guinness vs. Hayakawa), even to the point of referring to the Japanese as "barbarians."

Of course, there was a war on.

This is part of the character.
That is better detailed - or complex - in the book.
He is surely not a hero in the book.
He is more like the caricature of a british officer - at least from a frenchman point of view.
The colonel is indeed arrogant, pompous, old-school and convinced of the european superiority.
He is a kind of symbol of a dying race: the british colonists of the 19th century.
I think the idea of Pierre Boulle with this character was to mock those dinosaurs. Something the film missed.

[Q Classic]

happens with book to movie translations.

like with starship troopers.

[MikeH]

That was a great movie.

[Q Classic]

and i hate to say it, but the book was better.

and both were utter carp.

did you know that in romanian, carp is crap?

[MikeH]

I'm a big fan of Robert Heinlein and I don't think that Starship Troopers is his best book. It's an interesting concept and even his less good books are still excellent.

I really like Starship Troopers the movie though, it's a great satire. I think Paul Verhoeven's managed to put just about every propoganda war movie cliche in there, and take a swipe at the media whilst he's doing it.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


I liked the sinking part. They could have spared all the bull**** until then.

Amen to that!

Nope, can't think of any. I tend to be pretty consistent...

[st_swithin]

Rainman, The Colour of Money, Risky Business, Far and Away - I really dislike Tom Cruise.

Hannibal - but only because SOTL was so extraordinarily well-done, and by contrast, Hannibal seemed rather silly

Rebel Without a Cause
It's a Wonderful Life
Citizen Kane
Birth of a Nation
Das Boot
Some Like it Hot
Deepthroat

[Verres]

I haven't seen Labyrinth or Legend recently, but I could deffinately see these as being dated

Labyrinth was, is, and shall ever remain, an amazing film! Nothing dated about it...plus David Bowie looked at his best in it, imo It is an absolute classic, had far greater impact on me than any other film.

Hannibal - but only because SOTL was so extraordinarily well-done, and by contrast, Hannibal seemed rather silly

I thought Hannibal was actually far better than silence of the lambs; beautiful setting, beautiful music...you ended up wanting him to get away with it (or was this just me... ). All three films were great actually...although Red Dragon didnt have the same appeal as you saw so little of Hopkins.

[st_swithin]

With Hannibal, the problem lies with my having read the book first. Sometimes I think I ought to have seen the movie without having read the book so I won't have any expectations.

Red Dragon was interesting - it referred to a mah-johng piece that Chinese people call 'the red middle' and American people call 'the red dragon'. Up until the movie, the only place I'd ever heard it referred to as 'the red dragon' is in a PC game called Shanghai.

If you put the Chinese characters for 'middle' and 'country' together, you get the Chinese word for China.

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by st_swithin
Rebel Without a Cause
It's a Wonderful Life

Both excellent movies.

[Master Zen]

E_T: crap crap crap. Never liked it.

Titanic: crap crap crap. Never saw it.


I was just surfing a site which listed all the best picture winners since the 20's. I'm amazed at how many of those movies are pretty dull and others which weill be timeless classics (Star Wars, Alien, LOTR) were forgotten. The Academy really sucks

[st_swithin]

Yeah, but look at how cool it was that a couple of years ago, we had an African-American best actor AND best actress in the SAME YEAR! These are the people who thought that Denzel was better in "Training Day" than "The Hurricane".

Go Academy! They really know how to pick a winner!!

[Dis]

Originally posted by Master Zen
E_T: crap crap crap. Never liked it.

Titanic: crap crap crap. Never saw it.


I was just surfing a site which listed all the best picture winners since the 20's. I'm amazed at how many of those movies are pretty dull and others which weill be timeless classics (Star Wars, Alien, LOTR) were forgotten. The Academy really sucks

how can you know Titanic is crap if you never seen it?

[JohnT]

Precisely because he's never seen it.

[monkspider]

How can you people say that Citizen Kane has not stood the test of time? I have always pointed to it as the quintessential example of a timeless film.