Why liberals are not hyprocrits - by Ann Coulter

[NeOmega]

Ann Coulter noted in her column that the only thing anyone could find concern Rush and drugs was the often quoted piece from his 1995 TV show. He has been virtually silent on the topic for years.

She also claims Amercan soldiers were killed during the occupation of Japan and Germany. A lie.

She also claims McCarthy wasn't after communists.

She is also annoying, dumb, and laughs at her jokes when no one else is.... because they are not funny.... even O'Reilly is funnier than her, and I hate him.

She is simply being propped up by a bunch of chauvenist males as an example of a good little conservative b****, and I mean that like a prisoner would.

[Berzerker]

She also claims Amercan soldiers were killed during the occupation of Japan and Germany. A lie.

She also claims McCarthy wasn't after communists.

I've heard the first but not the second. Link? If none, no biggie. That one just sounds bizarre.

There may or may not have been soldiers killed during the occupations, but Germany and Japan were so soundly defeated and in ruins there wasn't much point to resisting the occupiers. Besides, it would take a seriously moronic person to see those countries as victims of the US.

[st_swithin]

I would like to see where she claims McCarthy wasn't after commies. That's like saying the Red Scare was just a dinoflagellate bloom, or the Cold War was over refrigerated Pepsi vs. Coke.

[NeOmega]

A large section of her book, from interviews with her I have seen on FOX, defends McCarthy's honor and claims he was the victim of a smear campaign from Eisenhower. May be an interesting theory, except she's too ignorant to be taken seriously by me.

Re: Germany and Japan, she was trying to sell on "Heartland" show I think it was, that the resistance in Iraq is a natural part of the rebuilding process. And that America had the same problems when we occupied Germany and Japan after the War. Total nonsense.

[GePap]

Ned, I must say I am trully amazed and befuffled by you. Do you really mean what you say? As far as attack speecvh, tyhe right begun it iun the 1990's againts the Clintons. If anything, only now has the left in power picked it up (as opposed to grassrootsd activists form both sides who have always dealt in invectives and hyperbole). It was the right that begun the age of 24 hour verbal attacks, not the left.

[Straybow]

And where did I talk about how much Rush was using? That's called a strawman, oops, a straybow.

No, when you invoke "hillbilly heroin" that refers to a specific practice: crushed and injected. I can't help it if you are ignorant of the vocabulary you're using.

It doesn't matter what the FDA says, they don't write the laws - Congress writes them.

Yes and the U.S. Congress has not legalized medical pot, only CA and maybe another state or two. A Federal Court has ordered the various Federal law enforcement agencies to not enforce Federal law against prescribers and users of "medical pot." Again, if you think that is the last appeal you are wrong.

Liberals don't condemn social conservatives for committing adultery, they ridicule them for …not living up to the very standards they preach.

So where are all the quotes? Rush only called "potheads" people like AlGore, who positioned themselves as clean-cut all-American types but in fact used massive quantities of pot in HS/college years. Or he mocks Clinton who "didn't inhale" and Marion "the b1tch set me up" Barry. Etc.

He also has a phrase "long-haired, maggot-infested, dope-smoking, good-time, plastic-banana, rock-n-roll FM [radio] types" or something like that. Refers not to drug use per se, but to the whole hippie mentality.

Well, more later.

[Berzerker]

Straybow -

No, when you invoke "hillbilly heroin" that refers to a specific practice: crushed and injected. I can't help it if you are ignorant of the vocabulary you're using.

The term just happens to be what the media uses without any mention of "specific practices". Does it matter?
Not to me. In your book, does pothead only apply to people who smoke it and not to those who eat it?

Yes and the U.S. Congress has not legalized medical pot, only CA and maybe another state or two. A Federal Court has ordered the various Federal law enforcement agencies to not enforce Federal law against prescribers and users of "medical pot." Again, if you think that is the last appeal you are wrong.

I just told you there are people in this country with FEDERAL approval to smoke pot. And I believe ~8 states have legalised medical pot, so since pot has obviously been legalised in some states and at the federal level for those with permission, why don't you refer to pot smokers as people who merely use a prescription drug illegally? Because your "distinction" between illegal drug use and the illegal use of a prescription drug is both meaningless and morally and legally irrelevant.

So where are all the quotes? Rush only called "potheads" people like AlGore, who positioned themselves as clean-cut all-American types but in fact used massive quantities of pot in HS/college years. Or he mocks Clinton who "didn't inhale" and Marion "the b1tch set me up" Barry. Etc.

If you haven't listened to Rush, you wouldn't know. If you were a steady listener a few years back, you would have heard him criticise pot smokers plenty of times. Yeah, I'll do a Nexus search for all the times Rush has defamed people for using pot. I heard him do it... Hell, just read the quotes in this thread. When he speaks of the ills allegedly caused by drugs, he is blaming drug users for those ills. Sorry, but that's like accusing Republicans of being racists because of David Duke.

He also has a phrase "long-haired, maggot-infested, dope-smoking, good-time, plastic-banana, rock-n-roll FM [radio] types" or something like that. Refers not to drug use per se, but to the whole hippie mentality.

Oh that's good, Straybow. He uses negative imagery to defame certain people but he wasn't actually saying anything bad about pot smokers. I had long hair back then, I listened to FM, and I smoked pot. The only people who have maggot infestations are people who've been wounded and are smart enough to leave them alone absent better medical care. Now, since there aren't really people who are "maggot-infested" except for what I've described, was Rush calling millions of people "hippies"?

Well, more later.

Just answer one question: if drug prohibition neither reduces or increases consumption, what is it's purpose?

[st_swithin]

government regulation at its best.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Ned
She does this in language which is completely unusual from the normally mild-manner Republicans.

Are we in the same dimension?

Coz the attacks the Republicans unleashed on Clinton were quite vile and full of vitriol.

[johncmcleod]

I wish all of the conservatives would pack their bags and leave. Seriously, they stain our nation. I am so sick of hearing the conservative propaganda. All I hear everyday is about how righteous the conservatives are and how immoral and evil the liberals are. In fact, almost every single conservative I know is a total moron. They are narrow minded. They see everything from one perspective and they can't look at things from a different viewpoint. And they don't look into any of the issues. They just believe in whatever would seem to be the right thing to do after they see the surface of the problem and no facts. They question nothing, they just accept it because conservative leaders say so. They make up their opinions this way and they don't even realize how idiotic they are (the opinions I mean, not always the person). I think Iraq is a perfect example. All of the conservatives hear Bush make a speech on TV, think about the problem for about two seconds and say "We should go in." and then they believe in that without looking into it further, yet the idea is just plain stupid.

Of course you'll probably shoot back and say 'liberals do the same thing' but let me tell you this. I actually considered other opinions out there. Conservatives just have the same opinions and look at things the same way as they always have. They don't consider anything different. But I looked at what else was out there. I used to be an idiotic conservative uber-patriot (well, the idiotic part may still be true), but I decided to keep an open mind and actually question things, not just take them for the way they are. I looked at all of the political parties (not just conservative ones such as republican and democrat), looked into them, and made my decision on what I thought was best. Most of the conservatives didn't do this. They never questioned the viewpoint that they learned to look from. They didn't look at anything else. They questioned nothing and kept their narrow mind. That is where they have failed.

[st_swithin]

I used to be a poster child for rock the vote. If you turned 18 between 1997-98 and registered to vote, you might've gotten a postcard in the mail with me on it.

That was my contribution to the voting effort in America. Now we have George W. I feel like I've got the Midas Touch in reverse - anything with my pic on it turns stuff to sh1t.

[johncmcleod]

That's cool. Did you get any money?

[Ned]

Originally posted by Q Cubed

Ann Coulter is a columnist and a writer. She has been strongly criticizing liberals for their lack of morals and their anti-Americanism. She does this in language which is completely unusual from the normally mild-manner Republicans. She uses the same harsh language the Democrats have long used to describe Republicans. She has turned the tables on them and they hate her for it.

in other words, she has sunken to their level, become as base as the worst liberal critic of conservatives.

she claims to stand for morality, when in essence, she is no different from them in her manner of attack.

that's why.

The Democrat harsh rhetoric has long been there and commentators like Limbaugh have long lambasted Republican leaders for not responding in kind or at least objecting to it. When Clinton and Gore used to say that Republicans were killing children, and they usually had an exact number, by taking such and such position on policy issues, Republican largely remained silent about the unacceptability of the rhetoric.

Now, for the very first time in history of the Republican Party it seems, we have a commentator that can sling it just as well as the Democrats. All I can say to the leftist complainers here is, "You started it."

[johncmcleod]

Sorry Ned. I apologize on behalf of the liberals for questioning authority and speaking our minds if we disagree with something. You conservatives are right in ostracizing us for doing so.

[Ned]

Originally posted by GePap
Ned, I must say I am trully amazed and befuffled by you. Do you really mean what you say? As far as attack speecvh, tyhe right begun it iun the 1990's againts the Clintons. If anything, only now has the left in power picked it up (as opposed to grassrootsd activists form both sides who have always dealt in invectives and hyperbole). It was the right that begun the age of 24 hour verbal attacks, not the left.

The attacks on the Clintons by Republican leaders was very mild. Bush made only one, but very vague, reference to the "character" issue which had been raised in spades by his Democrat opponents in the primaries.

The sh*t hit the fan, though, when Clinton took office and really upped the slander against Republicans in very harsh language. He did not argue policy so much as to accuse Republicans of killing babies and pulling the plug on life support for those who depended on Social Security. Clinton was a fearmonger that noone will ever be able to top.