Athlon 64 versus PowerMac G5 benchmarks: "Not even close"

[Asher]

Well, I was told by certain-nameless-people that my analysis of Apple's purported benchmarks was bull, and was stupid, and we had to wait for independent versions of final, shipping silicon. And now we have it. Unfortunately it only proves me correct.

Here's the benchmarks:

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,112749,pg,8,00.asp

My favorites:
Quake III Arena (1024x768):
PowerMac G5 dual 2GHz: 294fps
Athlon 64 single FX-51: 338fps

Microsoft Word:
Search and Replace
PowerMac G5 dual 2GHz: 16 seconds
Athlon 64 single FX-51: 5 seconds

Auto summarize
PowerMac G5 dual 2GHz: 12 seconds
Athlon 64 single FX-51: 6 seconds

Quicktime encoding
PowerMac G5 dual 2GHz: 72 seconds
Athlon 64 single FX-51: 33 seconds

Speaks for itself, doesn't it?

The entire article starts here: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...49,pg,1,00.asp

[Q Classic]

your analysis of apple's purported benchmarks is bull, and is stupid.



man, the athlon 64 does look quite nice...

[Asher]

It is quite nice. It's actually a remarkably well-designed processor.

The K6 family sucked ass, the K7 family was pretty good, the K8 family is nearly perfect. I'm really impressed.

It's the little things that I like: SSE2 support, integrated heat-spreader so you won't break the core, on-die diode to prevent burning up, runs quite cool. I just installed AMD's new driver the other day for the Athlon 64s, which enables Cool and Quiet in Windows XP. It's basically PowerNow, and is in all K8 chips. It runs the chip at 800MHz when it's not in use to save power and heat, and adjusts itself 30 times a second so when you need the power it's right there.

[Verto]

I want 300+ FPS. Gives it to me, my precious!


Too much LoTR for me...

[Asher]

Quake III is four years old...300fps in Quake III is like 20fps in HalfLife 2.

[Asher]

Just for fun: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...threadid=97285

Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
The good thing about this is that no matter what, Apple has the fastest 64-bit personal computer on the planet; but not just that, but the only 64-bit personal computer on the planet.

Originally posted by Agathon
What's laughable is that anyone would take your opinion seriously, given your fanatical support for MS and Intel. In the past you've proved that you'll do anything to support your position - even post evidence from sites without reading them first. All your vaunted computer knowledge is worthless if no-one can take you seriously - and there is good reason not to, since you'll say anything to get your way. So why should this be any different?

Where are you guys?

[Drake Tungsten]

Agathon's quote is still accurate. Being right on one claim doesn't negate all the other false claims you've made in the past.

[Asher]

"All the other false claims" being that I said iTunes deleted files when you changed your region to Canada -- which certainly did happen, as Apple's tech support confirmed as well as numerous internet sites which I have linked to.

The fact that it doesn't anymore tells you just how powerful public pressure is, but it certainly doesn't make that claim false.

Just because it doesn't happen anymore doesn't mean it never happened, and therefore doesn't invalidate that claim.

The fact is, I told everyone months ago that Apple's claims were bull**** and provided an approximate figure for how it'll perform in real-world apps by analyzing the SPEC ratings as compared to PCs.

Lo and behold, they were dead-on.

[Drake Tungsten]

The fact that it doesn't anymore tells you just how powerful public pressure is, but it certainly doesn't make that claim false.

Just because it doesn't happen anymore doesn't mean it never happened, and therefore doesn't invalidate that claim.

You're still sticking with that lame "Apple changed it because people like me *****ed" routine? It's not true, since I know why my files are still around and it has nothing to do with changed policies on Apple's part.

Lo and behold, they were dead-on.

I never said they weren't. I just don't trust you, so I'd rather wait for confirmation from another source.

[DarthVeda]

Uh like anybody buys apple anyway. Why doesn't it just die already...

[Frozzy]

I'll say.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
You're still sticking with that lame "Apple changed it because people like me *****ed" routine? It's not true, since I know why my files are still around and it has nothing to do with changed policies on Apple's part.

So it has nothing to do with them changing their ToS to say that you can't use the music outside of the USA to you can't use the service outside of the USA?

So why don't you enlighten me if you know why they're still around and it's not because Apple changed policies. While you're at it, why don't you explain why that guy's files were deleted and why Apple's tech support told him to read the fine print of the Terms of Service.

Anyway, I'm so sick of arguing with you about this. You've now resorted to a single-handed debunking attempt of anything I say by calling me a "liar", all of which is based entirely on my claim that iTunes did delete files when you moved to Canada. Which was certainly true, the links were there and still are there to prove it. You still insist somehow that I "lied" about it (God knows what logic crawls through your brain), so you still use it to this day as an attempt to discredit me. And it fails every time, in fact it reminds me of Fez more than anything else.

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But look at this purty picture! Y-axis being time in seconds to complete, of course.

Remember that the PowerMac is the

world’s fastest personal computer and the first with a 64-bit processor

[Drake Tungsten]

So it has nothing to do with them changing their ToS to say that you can't use the music outside of the USA to you can't use the service outside of the USA?

Nope. It has to do with credit cards and their nationality, if you really must know.

While you're at it, why don't you explain why that guy's files were deleted and why Apple's tech support told him to read the fine print of the Terms of Service.

I thought it was a girl? You're mixing up your stories.

And it fails every time, in fact it reminds me of Fez more than anything else.

You miss the little guy, don't you? I can't see why, but I never could account for your odd tastes.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
Nope. It has to do with credit cards and their nationality, if you really must know.

It said that in the article I linked to months ago. How very astute of you to be able to comprehend it and assume I hadn't.

I thought it was a girl? You're mixing up your stories.

Someone else called the person a girl and I just ran with it since I never remembered the gender of the person. Sure enough the guy in question is named Shawn and he's actually an executive-type person, which the links clearly describe. So you can knock it off trying to discredit me -- again. You can't do it very well.

[Drake Tungsten]

It said that in the article I linked to months ago. How very astute of you to be able to comprehend it and assume I hadn't.

If you comprehended it, why have you been grasping at straws for so long trying to find a reason for my files still being around? First it was my fault, since I was obviously too dumb to "change my region". Then, it was because of a change in Apple policy caused by the complaining of people like you. Now you say it is because of credit cards, acting as if you knew that the whole time. Jesus, and you wonder why no one trusts you anymore?