Good News for England

[Drogue]

Vassell and Rooney up front would be interesting. I think I've seen 2 England matches with Beattie in and I wasn't impressed either time. He gave away too much and didn't really create anything. Owen may be tried ans tested, but he's also a good striker. He scores a lot and he scores consistantly. He's saved England enough times to be an automatic choice IMHO.

[Solly]

MikeH, I haven't denied in this thread that Michael Owen was never a good player, have I?

[MikeH]

He's better now than ever.

[Solly]

Care to back that up with his goalscoring record for Liverpool and England over the last five years?

[MikeH]

Sure

http://www.soccerage.com/en/04/12819.html

[Solly]

Which stats in particular do you want me to look at to understand that he is at his best ever?

[Solly]

And also explain how I can trust that site when it doesn't even give his correct place of birth

[MikeH]

7 goals in 8 games for Liverpool already this season, 5 goals in the last 7 internationals. Much higher ratio than his average which is about 1/2 per international.

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
And also explain how I can trust that site when it doesn't even give his correct place of birth

He was born in Chester you asshat. If you have any shocking revelations to the contrary, with a reliable source, you're welcome to share them. You might also want to inform Liverpool football club: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/owen/

[Drake Tungsten]

Michael Owen is God.

[FrustratedPoet]

Only when he plays for England. When he plays for Liverpool he's "that little ****ing ****bag who keeps scoring against [your team]".

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Park Avenue
And also explain how I can trust that site when it doesn't even give his correct place of birth

Chester (same as me!) is correct.The Countess of Chester Hospital to be exact.

And why would you play Smith, Rooney AND Beattie (not to mention Scholes pushing on) when we only needed a draw to qualify? Very tactically niave as Big Ron might say.

Heskey did a cracking job on Saturday (admitidly its about time)

[Drake Tungsten]

When he plays for Liverpool he's "that little ****ing ****bag who keeps scoring against [your team]".

That's why I root for Liverpool.

[alva]

I loved it when only 20 min. after the game,the punters were saying:

"Ooh and see England going all the way in Portugal"

Yeah right
I'm not against England (I'll probably end up supoting them during the finals), but face it, you're just not good enough IMO.
Besides you're track record isn't all that great either, is it now.

[FrustratedPoet]

I agree. The people who say we stand a realistic chance of winning the whole tournament are crazy. Frankly, we'd do well to get out of our group considering how strong the competition is. It's possible we'll win, anything's possible - Denmark won in '92 after all - but it isn't likely.