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  • #61
    Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
    You seem to enjoy naively dismissing the possiblility that the extremists living in Iraq could be influential enough to cause problems down the line.


    You're missing the point that these extremists are going to cause problems down the line no matter what. Why tear some fine-ass honeys away from their soldier boys in order to placate some crazys that are going to hate us no matter what we do? Seems rather non-sensical to me.
    Using instances like this gives them something to wave in front of the fence-sitter's face screaming, "SEE!? SEE!?" It's a lot harder to convince someone that rebuilding infrastructure/schools/economy/etc is Evil American Imperialism (TM).

    Getting my drift yet?
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    • #62
      No.

      Maybe we should just tell the soldiers to hunker down in their Humvees and not come out for fear of inciting the locals
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Ted Striker
        No.

        Maybe we should just tell the soldiers to hunker down in their Humvees and not come out for fear of inciting the locals
        Not a bad idea, but still wouldn't work. Like I said, we have to be careful about HOW we antagonize the radicals, not IF we antagonize them. We should just stick to rebuilding their country, structuring their government into a democratic state, and maintain the peace (*holds back uneasy laughter*).
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        • #64
          Using instances like this gives them something to wave in front of the fence-sitter's face screaming, "SEE!? SEE!?"


          What are they going to yell "SEE!?" at? The American serviceman who loved their Iraqi wives enough to convert to Islam to marry them? Oh, the horror! I bet the average Iraqi will be incensed at that barbaric behavior.
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          • #65
            The soldiers, by their own public admission, said they converted to be allowed to marry. I have serious doubts they were "called to the faith."
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            • #66
              I wish I could meet a hot Iraqi woman.

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              • #67
                When did I ever say they were "called to the faith"? I just think it shows how much they love their wives for them to convert, even if they didn't really want to.
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                • #68
                  I wish I could meet a hot Iraqi woman.


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                  • #69
                    Drake, I didn't say you said that. I'm trying to put myself into the dusty shoes of those that would have a serious problem with these marriages. I don't have a problem with them, I'm just trying to be mindful of other forces in this world and how they'd likely react.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by DRoseDARs


                      Using instances like this gives them something to wave in front of the fence-sitter's face screaming, "SEE!? SEE!?" It's a lot harder to convince someone that rebuilding infrastructure/schools/economy/etc is Evil American Imperialism (TM).

                      Getting my drift yet?
                      You're dismissing the possibility of other fence-sitters seeing this and saying, "hey, maybe the americans aren't so bad...,"
                      I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                      I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                        You seem to enjoy naively dismissing the possiblility that the extremists living in Iraq could be influential enough to cause problems down the line.


                        You're missing the point that these extremists are going to cause problems down the line no matter what. Why tear some fine-ass honeys away from their soldier boys in order to placate some crazys that are going to hate us no matter what we do? Seems rather non-sensical to me.
                        One, you're assuming that only "extremists" will object.

                        Two, you're assuming the US Army is suddenly concerned with placating the opinions of "extremists" (if so, why are TF20, TF Iron Horse and the d-boys hunting their asses daily).

                        This is not a new policy, nor is it one just for the mideast. The same thing applied in WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, and in peacetime in a number of situations sailors with their girls in every port, etc.

                        The issue actually identified by the CO was focus on the unit's mission. If a large portion of the horny young unattached contingent of the US forces is suddenly looking for bangtail, and an equally large contingent of Iraqi women are looking for green card city, then you have a FUBAR in the making. Like I said earlier, we are not running a ****ing dating service.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                          When did I ever say they were "called to the faith"? I just think it shows how much they love their wives for them to convert, even if they didn't really want to.
                          So sham conversion to Islam to get some local *****? That'll go over well with everyone.
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                          • #73
                            Two, you're assuming the US Army is suddenly concerned with placating the opinions of "extremists" (if so, why are TF20, TF Iron Horse and the d-boys hunting their asses daily).


                            No I'm not. I'm pretty sure the Army's reasons for opposing this have nothing to do with placating extremists. Drosedars seemed to be supporting the Army's decision based on that line of reasoning, however, which is what I was questioning.

                            looking for bangtail


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                            • #74
                              So sham conversion to Islam to get some local *****? That'll go over well with everyone.


                              Getting local ***** and marrying it are not the same thing. All the boys out loving and leaving the Iraqis are doing more harm to US interests than these two guys.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Theben


                                You're dismissing the possibility of other fence-sitters seeing this and saying, "hey, maybe the americans aren't so bad...,"
                                Or unmarried Iraqi males, or parents, or siblings, saying "They're stealing our women!!

                                If this becomes common practice (it won't), how long do you think it'll be, in an occupied country full of hotheads (and I'm talking about average Iraqis here, plus the US troops) with Kalashnikovs, before jealousy or family issues lead somebody to shoot a US troop, or try to, and then you get your response by US forces, in a "normal," previously non-hostile neighborhood.

                                Sorry to disappoint some of the "noble" civvy types, but the conduct of the mission of the United States in occupying Iraq is a higher priority than the ***** chase of some E3s and E4s.
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