What really scares me about USUK aggression

[notyoueither]

btw, at what point was Venezuela communist?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Bull****!

Yes, much of the eastern block didn't have hard currency so they would resort to a barter system and when the Soviets wanted to give subsidies to its puppets they would give them resources.

The US was more old fashioned and just gave it's allies cash.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by notyoueither
btw, at what point was Venezuela communist?

Chavez loves communists. Or at least he keeps declaring he does. He signed a cut rate oil deal with Castro to show his solidarity against the evil white yankee.

[Ted Striker]

No blood for camels or Bedouin hoes!!!

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Chavez loves communists. Or at least he keeps declaring he does. He signed a cut rate oil deal with Castro to show his solidarity against the evil white yankee.

Oh yeah. And then he sells oil on the world market for less than the going rate I suppose.

Do you want to buy a bridge in Brooklyn?

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Alberta is sitting on 280-300 billion barrles of oil, just in the tar sands. Then there are the more conventional oil fields. Statistics lie and then sometimes it's the people publishing them that do.

There, all you had to do was wait til someone came along who could give you accurate information. Was that so hard?

Thanks for your accurate information. Source?

My info was from the ]Energy Information Administration , "Official Energy Statistics from the U.S. Government".
But of course you know it better.

As for why the armed might of the US might be interested in the ME right now, maybe you tuned out the fact that there is one hell of a hole in the ground right where the centre pieces of New York used to be, and the people who created the holes came from the ME. I don't know. I could be wrong here, but I think that is what has the Yanks up in arms.

The US is not suddenly interested in the ME right now. They are interested in the ME for a long time, long before terrorists started to blow americans up.
Btw, have you seen evidence that would connect Iraq to Al Qaeda? Because I haven't seen any. Nor WOMD. So why Iraq then?

Why don't you read everything before you post? I didn't say this war was only about oil. I've said that the main strategic reason was oil.

Until you publish your sources, something more than "Alberta is sitting on 280-300 billion barrels of oil", I will ask again: is it just a coincidence that the US controls the world's 3 largest in oil reserves countries?

[notyoueither]

Here's one link. http://www.geotimes.org/mar03/NN_canada.html

of course if you believe it 'jumped' from 4.5 to 180 you too can buy a brick in the road we are building. I will price that brick especially low just for you. The fact they have been pumping billions of dollars into the oil sands for the last 30 years might lend credence to the idea that there is a **** of a lot of oil there.

I am looking for the other links that are more reliable than that one.

[Tiberius]

I am looking for the other links that are more reliable than that one.

Why? You suddenly don't believe what the US government says? Whatever.

You know what? I believe you. You are right. Canada is richer in oil than the Middle East.

[Drake Tungsten]

You know what? I believe you. You are right. Canada is richer in oil than the Middle East.

It is. The oil is just harder to process.

[notyoueither]

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/102spring2002_Web_projects/M.Sexton/

There you go. 2500 billion barrels of oil, top most. More than the whole of the ME.

But of course, the only reason the US would be interested in the region would be the oil. Maybe it's the tin pot dicators that have easy money from oil? No, that couldn't be it, could it?

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Tiberius


Why? You suddenly don't believe what the US government says? Whatever.

You know what? I believe you. You are right. Canada is richer in oil than the Middle East.

As a matter of fact, you may be correct.

Whats wrong, can't face long held beliefs to be dispelled?

[Ted Striker]

No blood for eskimos and hockey!!!

[notyoueither]

Batter damn yah for blood and hockey, or no oil for you!

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


The whole reason we support Israel has to do with their ability to keep the Arab nations disunited (except in their hatred of Israel). Israel has this nasty habit of smacking down the pan-Arabist countris hardest.

Oh, that's beautiful.

[Tiberius]

You are really pathetic, nye. You are trying so hard to prove that I'm wrong, you called my source "unreliable". However our links have their info from the same source: The Oil and Gas Journal.

My data was accurate on Jan. 1 2002, which I stated in my post. Yet you had to call it "bull****". What a convincing argument

From your source:

Estimates of Canada’s oil reserves jumped from 4.9 billion barrels to 180 billion this year

Now read my link and see what were the estimates on Jan 1 2002.

From you link, too:

Despite technological developments, the Oil and Gas Journal estimate might be overly optimistic, says Naresh Kumar, chair of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists’ Resources Evaluation Committee.

One more quote from your source, nye:

Whatever the immediate investment climate, the United States has strong long-term interests in the Alberta oil sands. According to the Bush administration’s National Energy Policy, “their continued development can be a pillar of sustained North American energy and economic security.”

First of all, I doubt it'd be cheap to extract that oil. The ME oil is the cheapest in the world in this regard. But even so, the article says that the US gov. "has strong long-term interests" in the Alberta oil; however, you want me to believe that they don't give a sh!t on the ME oil. Sure. Greed doesn't matter at all. You believe in fairy tales, too?

Maybe it's the tin pot dicators that have easy money from oil? No, that couldn't be it, could it?

Yes, it could. That's a good reason, too, and probably part of the whole picture. Oh wait, maybe it isn't such a good reason after all, because it is connected to, horror, oil!