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  • The end to Global Warming is at hand.

    STMicroelectronics, Europe's largest semiconductor maker, has invented a cheap solar cell that can make the production of electricity using the cell cheaper than the production of electricity through power plants.



    What if every house in the world used these cells? What if they had electic cars recharged by the sun? No more global warming? You bet.

    What we need to do is get governments roll these cells out to every home using tax credits or the like.

    This is great news!
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  • #2
    That IS awesome
    Monkey!!!

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    • #3
      No, just no more acceleration of global warming.

      But hooray for cheap fuel cells. Yay.
      Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
      "I don't believe in giving scripting languages because the only additional power they give users is the power to create bugs." - Mike Breitkreutz, Firaxis

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      • #4
        It will happen in 60 years- yahoo
        I will never understand why some people on Apolyton find you so clever. You're predictable, mundane, and a google-whore and the most observant of us all know this. Your battles of "wits" rely on obscurity and whenever you fail to find something sufficiently obscure, like this, you just act like a 5 year old. Congratulations, molly.

        Asher on molly bloom

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        • #5
          It looks interesting but I'll wait and see. So many of these things fizzle out over one technical detail or another.

          Also since they are half as efficient as normal solar cells they will require twice the space to generate the same amount of power. Solar energy already requires so much space that it is impractical in many cities. This will make it cheaper but only people with ALOT of spare room can use it.
          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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          • #6
            Sounds great, but from the article -

            The cells aren't 'stable'. Presumably they degrade too fast to be viable at the moment. We'll have to see if this changes; the whole field has been subjected to a lot of hype.

            They haven't even got to half the efficiency of normal solar cells yet. They expect to, but that's no guarantee. Even if they do then it's still a question of twice as much land being needed.

            Also, a major cost of a solar cell system for electricity would be storage for night-time use. This hasn't been solved.

            Hopefully this will emerge fully and be of some help, but it's a bit soon to be heralding the end of global warming.

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            • #7
              This is interesting, but they haven't even made it to prototype stage yet. Snags have a way of cropping up, especially when you are talking actual production, so how they could give a credible cost figure is beyond me.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #8
                looks like cool stuff.

                Room isn't a problem, btw. If this could compete with fossil fuel, I've got the desert.
                urgh.NSFW

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                • #9
                  One thing that would be nice versus current photovoltaics is that presumably the production waste for one of these cells is less troublesome to deal with.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    This is interesting, but they haven't even made it to prototype stage yet. Snags have a way of cropping up, especially when you are talking actual production, so how they could give a credible cost figure is beyond me.
                    Couple notes on how things are made.

                    Prototype does not mean that there hasn't made. It means that one has not been made to meet the quoted criteria. Perhaps they have one that is 1/2 the size, cost 5x as much to make, or was made with "adequate" imperfections. Generally, bench scale models will be smaller, cost more to make, and not be as perfect as would a production line working model... or prototype.

                    Cost projections are done everyday on products far more complicated to fabricate or predict than solar panels or microchips. I am sure the product analyst know how to do this adequately...

                    Still, some wrinkles and snags will occur, but if they have gone as far to run a cost analyst they most likely are sure what those snags will be. Since I believe they have a defined process these snags will be nothing more than perfecting manufacturing machinery and possibly raw material classifications and identifications...

                    My biggest fear of this item not reaching market would be a Saudi oil tycoon offering more money than one would ever dream of making for the patent. Then, that tycoon buries that patent along with all the other desings he has (including the one for the perpetual motion machine) and does nothing with them.
                    Monkey!!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Oerdin
                      It looks interesting but I'll wait and see. So many of these things fizzle out over one technical detail or another.
                      Anyhow, if only half the amount invested into nuclear power research (**** EU) or into the Oil Industry but rather in alternative energies, we and our planet would be better off, even if one project or the other fails.
                      "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
                      "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wernazuma III


                        Anyhow, if only half the amount invested into nuclear power research (**** EU) or into the Oil Industry but rather in alternative energies, we and our planet would be better off, even if one project or the other fails.
                        alternative energies are only able to cover a part, at max. in the end, fusion is the way to go. For example, even in our sun-blessed country, we have nights. So this could be great for filling in our needs during day, and, say, using it to desalinize water, and stuff like that, in the long run, it's really NOT an alternative. So the EU is actually quite smart. For europe, thinking that solar power is a viable alternative is rediculous.

                        The best way to generate power is fusion. end of story.
                        urgh.NSFW

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                        • #13
                          This will make it cheaper but only people with ALOT of spare room can use it
                          And ALOT of sunshine. I don't think this will be the rage in Seatle or Vancouver.

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                          • #14
                            And ALOT of sunshine. I don't think this will be the rage in Seatle or Vancouver
                            Where does Seatle or Vancouver get their energy? If they're like California and the Bay Area (which is always over cast too) we get it from Texas... Hey Sloww hows the weather there?

                            For example, even in our sun-blessed country, we have nights.
                            The sun is shining on half the planet at all times. And, by the way, we have methods by which to store energy.
                            Monkey!!!

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                            • #15

                              The sun is shining on half the planet at all times. And, by the way, we have methods by which to store energy.

                              I don't think I want to rely on Syria for my power cable connections.
                              urgh.NSFW

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