This is why the Israeli side is morally superior to the Palestinians.

[Dinner]

Today an Israeli court senteced three Jewish settlers who had formed an anti-Palestinian terror group & who had planned to blow up an Arab girls school in East Jerusalem to 12-15 years in prison. The Israelis arrest their militants and give them long jail sentences while the Palestinians cheer terrorists as heros and train their children to blow themselves up (ever seen the pictures of children as young a 3 dressed as suicide bombers?).

To contrast the Palestinian authority continues to protect terrorist leaders (by granting them diplomatic status or by hiding them in PA compounds), to promote terrorism, and to finance terrorist attacts. This is just another way the Israeli side is morally & ethically superior to the Palestinian side.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3151930.stm

[SlowwHand]

Terrorism is terrorism

[Traianvs]

whether the government blows up some palestinians, or militias blow op some Pals, it's all the same to me

[Dinner]

So you don't think the fact that Israel arrests Jewish terrorists while the PA gives Islamic terrorists weapons makes Israel morally superior?

[Lorizael]

Not all Palestinians cheer the success of suicide bombers, nor are all Palestinian children raised to blow up Israelis; however, every Israeli does join the military, which is responsible for the deaths of numerous Palestinian civilians. Doesn't that make all Israelis terrible? (No, it doesn't, but I'm just trying to present the other side)

And, even assuming that this singular incident makes the Israelis morally superior when compared to a false perception of the entirety of Palestinian society, what's your point? What good does it do to blame the Palestinians or to condemn every last one of them or to portray the Israelis as superior?

[Az]

I don't think that the punishment was harsh enough. But it's rather similar to palestinian cases, so that point is void. I was also very happy to see that the way the security forces, and the procedure was similar to palestinian terrorists. ( They were detained without court as well, etc. )

[germanos]

What are the implications, now that Israël is morally supiriour?

Is it now even more horendous (sp?) to blow up a city-bus in haifa?

Is it now less horendous when a palestinian civilian dies in gaza?

[pchang]

Forget morality

The fact the Israel is willing to prosecute and imprison their own shows the Israeli government is at least willing to try living side by side with Palestinians. The actions of the Palestinian Authority show that they are not interested in living side by side with Israelis. Thus, the Israeli government is worthy of our continued support and the Palestinian Authority is not. We must find a Palestinian faction that is willing to live side by side with Israelis and support them.

[Dinner]

The bottom line is:

-Israel arrests terrorist, the Palestinians promote terrorist.

-The Israelis try to spare civilian life, the Palestinians deliberately target civilians.

-The Israelis have repeatedly offered peace over the last 60 years, the Palestinians have always rejected peace.

-The Israelis absorbed the thousands of Jewish refugees which Arab bigots throw out of Arab countries, the Arabs have refused to absorb the Palestinian refugees.

-Israeli schools teach that Arabs are good people but that specific Arab governments have bad policies, most Arab schools teach that Jews are evil and should be killed.

How can anyone try to claim there is moral equivalence between the two sides?

[Dinner]

Re: Forget morality

Originally posted by pchang
The fact the Israel is willing to prosecute and imprison their own shows the Israeli government is at least willing to try living side by side with Palestinians. The actions of the Palestinian Authority show that they are not interested in living side by side with Israelis. Thus, the Israeli government is worthy of our continued support and the Palestinian Authority is not. We must find a Palestinian faction that is willing to live side by side with Israelis and support them.

Exactly!

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Lorizael
And, even assuming that this singular incident makes the Israelis morally superior when compared to a false perception of the entirety of Palestinian society, what's your point?

This is not a singular incident. The Israeli government has been fighting and arresting Jewish militants since the beginning of the Jewish state. Even the Jewish terror groups which took part in the 1948 war were arrested and put in prison. The fact is Israel has always tried to fight terrorism reguardless of which side the terrorist support where as the Palestinians have always promoted terrorism and deliberately targeted civilians.

[Elok]

This just goes to show you that not all solutions fit all problems for all countries; while it would be counterproductive here, if there were ever a country that needed legalized marijuana, it's Israel. They all need a nice big dose of apathetic giggly sloth...

[Whaleboy]

Oh perleeaaasssee

First you don't define moral, second you tar all with one of two brushes. Bad troll

[Berzerker]

How can anyone try to claim there is moral equivalence between the two sides?

Whose land was it in 1945?

The Israelis try to spare civilian life, the Palestinians deliberately target civilians.

I've heard something like 3 x as many Palestinians have died as Isreali Jews, why?

The Israelis have repeatedly offered peace over the last 60 years, the Palestinians have always rejected peace.

Have these offers of "peace" included a sovereign Palestinian state or just continued vassaldom?

Israel arrests terrorist, the Palestinians promote terrorist.

Both sides elect them too.

The Israelis absorbed the thousands of Jewish refugees which Arab bigots throw out of Arab countries, the Arabs have refused to absorb the Palestinian refugees.

Israel was created to absorb Jews, Arab dictatorships were not.

Israeli schools teach that Arabs are good people but that specific Arab governments have bad policies, most Arab schools teach that Jews are evil and should be killed.

I've never taught or received an education at "most" Arab schools, have you? But if your people invaded my homeland, my people wouldn't be teaching our children how wonderful y'all are. It might take a while to forget enough to forgive...

How can anyone try to claim there is moral equivalence between the two sides?

I sure wouldn't, it's strange how the US condemned aparthied in South Africa while funding it in Israel. But thanks in large part to this willingness of the US to take sides, Americans have become the targets of people like Al Qaida. I'm just curious as to why Palestinians aren't trying to come here for payback...

[Az]

Whose land was it in 1945?

The Brits'.

I've heard something like 3 x as many Palestinians have died as Isreali Jews, why?

Heavier equipment.

Have these offers of "peace" included a sovereign Palestinian state or just continued vassaldom?

A sovereign palestinian state.

Both sides elect them too.

Israel was created to absorb Jews, Arab dictatorships were not.

doesn't negate the material claims of the jews.

I've never taught or received an education at "most" Arab schools, have you? But if your people invaded my homeland, my people wouldn't be teaching our children how wonderful y'all are. It might take a while to forget enough to forgive...

Bunch of bull****. We had many wars with arab states, yet our education system doesn't tell us to kill as many arabs, etc.

I sure wouldn't, it's strange how the US condemned aparthied in South Africa while funding it in Israel. But thanks in large part to this willingness of the US to take sides, Americans have become the targets of people like Al Qaida. I'm just curious as to why Palestinians aren't trying to come here for payback...

It isn't apartheid, since Israel has never established sovereignity over the palestinian population. ( And when it did, it granted citizenship. )