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  • #16
    Or, the candidates could write their own questions. Questions for both candidates would have to be answered, so they'd be fair.
    Just exactly as I said it. They'd write questions about themselves. Example Howard Dean was the governor of Vermont, true or false. So and so is for the abolition of the death penalty, true or false. They wouldn't have to be true or false questions though, those are just examples.

    I don't think we should dismiss the idea [of completely screwing up the entire nation] without giving it a chance...
    [Fez mode]Skywalker, why are you so delusional? Maybe a swim in the shark-infested Pacific Ocean would do you good. Where is my chopper?[/Fez mode]

    Seriously though, that idea has been tried for 226 years, so it hasn't been dismissed. Maybe giving the people more say might be better. The people would have direct control over the issues instead of politicians only being able to vote on them.
    "The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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    • #17
      Just exactly as I said it. They'd write questions about themselves. Example Howard Dean was the governor of Vermont, true or false. So and so is for the abolition of the death penalty, true or false. They wouldn't have to be true or false questions though, those are just examples.


      Oh, so you were talking about a Republic right then...

      Seriously though, that idea has been tried for 226 years, so it hasn't been dismissed. Maybe giving the people more say might be better. The people would have direct control over the issues instead of politicians only being able to vote on them.


      Maybe giving people more say would lead to complete chaos and malfunction in the government (and thus the nation). Most likely, in fact. And politicians are actually a pretty good measure of what the people want (they want to be reelected).

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      • #18
        In Canada we call it dicatorial democracy... The right to vote and the right to be dictated to...

        Anyone else see the trend?

        So who's money is it anyway?
        So who's rights are they promoting?
        So is there a law in your land that stops them from harming you?
        So is there a law in your land that stops them from oppressing you?
        Is there a law in your land that stops them from taking your cash?

        So bottom line do they care and do they abide by the laws or do they just change them to justify thier actions, dispite the will of the people.

        Are you afraid of your government?
        Do they have more power than you?
        Do appointed by the government at the time judges making social decissions for the masses?
        Ask questions be pro active, see the results.
        “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
        Or do we?

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        • #19
          The government does not have more power than you (the people), because you have complete power over the government. The government cannot maintain something against the will of the people for more than four years max, unless it declares martial law etc., in which case it's a moot point anyways.

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          • #20
            Yes every four years, but while in power they have the power over you. Do not kid yourself and in fours years look at the carnage,,,, you had the power?

            Dictatorial democracy do not kid yourself...
            “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
            Or do we?

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            • #21
              You want us to swap administrations MORE often?

              Plus, they WANT to be reelected. That keeps them from doing something that people don't want.

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              • #22
                Pick a side, if not mine, piss off, don't want to hear,
                no compromise when it comes to man,
                man's ****ing me up in here.
                His ability to make it all dissapear,
                how can I trust what I fear, be like the rest,
                disconnect, stick my head in a beer,
                that dizzy disease, disney indeed,
                dangle the carrot, watch the ass feed.
                Never questioning the hand that bleeds,
                less brain than present day Cobain,
                global destruction at the touch of a button
                a world clearly insane,
                genocide justified as killing in the name,
                won't be satisfied till the peace keepers fly,
                then it's boom, boom, boom, boom, goodbye.

                Put up, or get up and get out,
                ya gotta put up, or get up and get out
                ya gotta put up, or get up and get out
                ya gotta put up, put up, put up, put up, get out!

                /Pollutiom
                /Murder
                /Carnage
                /Give it up

                You voted for that right?
                “The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
                Or do we?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  SECURE internet voting system? What will you come up with next, che?
                  Commies have a prolific imagination -- who knows, Imran.
                  A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                  • #24
                    The day they come up with a 'secure' system is the day some hacker in Singapore swings the election for the Natural Law Party.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by skywalker
                      Plus, they WANT to be reelected. That keeps them from doing something that people don't want.
                      Nonsense this. Unpopular decisions have to be made.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by johncmcleod
                        Well, I don't want a republic. I want a democracy.
                        Why that's downright unAmerican!
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #27
                          I don't really want either, but our current system seems to be the best we could get. Failing that, I vote for the revival of the ancient Chinese Mandate of Heaven system, which is essentially a more honest and high-risk form of our present "democracy."
                          And I agree that controlling the flow of information on the internet is a slightly smaller problem than inventing time travel, or cold fusion. 'Taint gonna happen.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by skywalker
                            "secure internet" = oxymoron

                            Couldn't be any less secure then your current methods.
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                            Do It Ourselves

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                            • #29
                              Re: Democracy?

                              Originally posted by johncmcleod
                              But what if for everything voted on (including candidates I guess) the voter had to pass a test on the issue? They'd have to answer just a few simple questions on the issue and each opposing side or the policies of the candidates and then their vote would count. Some people might say that it wouldn't be fair because they wouldn't know what to learn, but first off this would encourage people to look into things which is good, and second, the simple solution is to release a cheap pamphlet with some information on the issue (or candidate) and all the answers to the questions would be in there somewhere. And in the pamphlet sources would be given to places where people could find more information, and the reader would be very strongly encouraged to look into the issue more.
                              These types of test have been twisted and used in the past to deny the rights of minorities to vote. I don't think we want to go back down that road.
                              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
                              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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                              • #30
                                What if the minority we're trying to deny rights to is Stupid People?
                                1011 1100
                                Pyrebound--a free online serial fantasy novel

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