Americans! Defend Your Right to Vote!

[Ecthy]

I'm afraid I have no representitive in the American Congress.

[Caligastia]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Software needs to be subject to third-party audit and accuracy verification, but banning secure wireless and electronic communication is assinine, and worthy of Luddites. Multi-billion dollar commerce can be carried out over SSL2 and TLS, there's no reason other than ignorance that votes shouldn't be. Wireless can also be adequately secured for purposes of vote tallies.

Good point. There's no reason to assume that wireless connections will not be secure. They are more difficult to secure, but it certainly can be done.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Caligastia
Good point. There's no reason to assume that wireless connections will not be secure. They are more difficult to secure, but it certainly can be done.

Says people who all say the government can't be trusted to do anything right.

[Jack_www]

Re: Americans! Defend Your Right to Vote!

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Call your representitive and demand that they support The Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act of 2003 (H.R. 2239).

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:H.R.2239:

http://holt.house.gov/display2.cfm?id=6282&type=Home

This act "requires all voting systems to produce a voter-verified paper record for use in manual audits."

Just one vote. I heard that the LA country will be buying voting machines that have both an paper and electronic record of each vote cast when they do get around to buying the things.

[yavoon]

interesting bill, silly thread title.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
It's not about Luddism, Micahel, it's about the crappy, flawed software that allows people to waltz right in and change the numbers that is being used in 37 states. The companies are aware of the problem, and rather than fixing it, they are mounting a PR campaign instead.

Yes, it is about Luddism - "I herd that internet stuff got viruses from them pedofile chat room things an I don't wanna get me no damn pedofile virus from voting so I don't want no damn electronic doodads giving me no damn virus. Mah great grandpappy voted on a piece of paper, so's if it's good enough fer him it's good enough for ever'one."

If you have flawed software, then get some people outside the voting machine industry, who have adequate knowledge in DBs, security, digital sigs, SSL/TLS, etc. and create a set of secure, reliable current technology standards, and an audit/test program. It ain't that ****ing tough to do, but having a bunch of ignoramuses legislate prohibitions on using certain technologies at all is just typically assinine. Let the ignorant regulate what they don't understand - it's the American way!

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Says people who all say the government can't be trusted to do anything right.

So don't let government do it. At least not all of it.

Have a panel of IT experts known in the industry for their expertise develop a set of standards, whitepaper it for general and industry comment, and once approved, have your government employees (county and state voter types) implement their end, have the voting machine people implement their end, and have independent third-party technical audit groups verify both and record their results.

With wireless, it won't matter if you can crack it a day or two later by brute forcing it, because the seeds for your encryption will be different every election, and ideally, every precinct.

It's not that hard to do, except for those who don't know what they're doing, or who have another agenda.

[Jack_www]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Says people who all say the government can't be trusted to do anything right.

The NSA can do it, the CIA and FBI and millitary can secure their communcations, why cant we do it with computer voting system? It does not have to be on the internet and it can be encripted where you would need a super computer and several days to creak it.
This law does not sound so good to me.