United States is about to cut the number of employment visas

[chequita guevara]

I would much rather compete against an H1-B in my country than against the same candidate in his own country. He get's a lot more money here than there.

[Drake Tungsten]

Uhm, aren't you a foreigner, gaijin?

I see your irony detector is still functioning properly.

[Jack_www]

Originally posted by Oerdin


There's tons of domestic talent however Americans generally want more money then the third worlders do so it's cheaper for companies to bring in engineers from India or China then it is to actually hire & train locals. You see right now we have litterally a sea of new college graduates who can't find jobs but the Intels would all rather hire someone from India who has 10 years experience and then pay him less then the new graduate would demand. It's time we understand Intel can only do this because we let them.


The government gives handouts and tax bracks to these companies by the bushel so now it's time for them to return the favor by hiring local people instead of importing cheap foreign labor.

I agree.

[Az]

Great. That means that all that money we spend on educating people won't go to the american economy.

[Makeo]

i get a h2b visa. i'm unskilled apparently

[Az]

Chem. Engineering peon, get in line.

[Shi Huangdi]

While I sympathize with the general idea of stopping the loss of tech jobs to foreign workers, I agree with Che. This trend will accelerate the loss of jobs from America overseas if this move is done in isolations by decreasing the amount of talent in the US labour market relative to the overseas market.

[MichaeltheGreat]

It's also a scam, politically. H visas just apply to US companies employing foreign workers.

Nothing in this bill prevents a foreign "company" (say, chartered last week in Bermuda) from transferring it's own employees (say, those who last week lost H-1b visas) to work in their new US offices (a converted trailer), under L-1 visas, to work for the foreign company's client (the former employer of the H-1b worker's that lost their visas). And of course, for purposes of coordination, the foreign L-1 visa workers have to meet with their company's client for coordination purposes, say... all day, every day. But they don't work there, they just have "coordination meetings." They don't have office space there, they just use some empty desks.

Etc.

The whole US visa class system is BS.

[Jack_www]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
It's also a scam, politically. H visas just apply to US companies employing foreign workers.

Nothing in this bill prevents a foreign "company" (say, chartered last week in Bermuda) from transferring it's own employees (say, those who last week lost H-1b visas) to work in their new US offices (a converted trailer), under L-1 visas, to work for the foreign company's client (the former employer of the H-1b worker's that lost their visas). And of course, for purposes of coordination, the foreign L-1 visa workers have to meet with their company's client for coordination purposes, say... all day, every day. But they don't work there, they just have "coordination meetings." They don't have office space there, they just use some empty desks.

Etc.

The whole US visa class system is BS.

What a stupid thing, I hate this. I worry when I get out of school how my chances will fair finding a job as a computer programmer.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Despite all the talk about outsourcing, there are still plenty of jobs in the US market.

The real trick is finding the particular skill set that will be in demand when you hit the market.

[chequita guevara]

Oracle, Oracle, Oracle

[Jack_www]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Oracle, Oracle, Oracle

Well I am going to learn as much as I can in the nest 2 years I have to go. Most of what I have been doing so far is just general ed classes.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Oracle, Oracle, Oracle

**** Oracle, it's over priced, overrated, underperforming crap.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


**** Oracle, it's over priced, overrated, underperforming crap.

Maybe so, but it's what employers are asking for. Me mum, who is a recruiter, keeps telling me to learn some Oracle and become a dba. Everyone wants Oracle programmers. Like anyone with my scattered brain could be a dba.

[Az]

dba= database analyst?