Will anti-Semitic lessons soon become mandatory in the Flemish schools in Belgium?

[Panag]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


All the stuff about Moses is irrelevent to today's struggle. The stuff about the Jews of the diaspora wishing to go home for 2,000 years is also irrelevent.

All the stuff about the Kurds is irrelevent, except for the allegation that Kurds and Turks constituted the majority of the population of Palestine (which is the first I've ever heard of it).

The allegation about the Israelis being outnumbers in 1948 is untrue. Israel outnumbered the combined military forces that were sent against them at all times (except in Jerusalem, where they weren't supposed to be anyway).

What I don't get a sense of is what the pamphlet or CD are supposedly about. Is it about a history of the Jewish people? Is it a history of the Levant / Palestine / Israel? Is it attempting to explain the ME struggles? Without a context to judge the omissions, how do I know whether that's a valid critique.

I only hear they are anti-semetic. Maybe they are, I can't tell from what you've provided me. I do get the sense that the authors equate anti-Zionism with anti-Semetism. I'm anti-Zionist. I'm also extremely hostile to anyone who says anything bad about Jews as individuals or a people. I hae even put my life on the line to stand up to anti-Semetism. I just don't agree with Israel's conduct.

keep it civilized and on topic please , .....

[Ecthy]

you guys do realize that noone else is following this thread?

[Sirotnikov]

Chegitz is.
So do you

Let it die peacefully.

[Panag]

hi ,

let it die

it shall go over

its just a small storm in a glass of water

its nothing

why all the fuzz


where those not the words we ones used , ......

70 years ago , .......


" he who forgets history is doomed to repeat it "

but the victim that forgets what has happend to him is equally doomed to befall victim again , .......

Shana Tova

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by panag
hi ,

let it die

it shall go over

its just a small storm in a glass of water

its nothing

why all the fuzz


where those not the words we ones used , ......

70 years ago , .......


" he who forgets history is doomed to repeat it "

but the victim that forgets what has happend to him is equally doomed to befall victim again , .......

Shana Tova

Fuzz is slang for police officer.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


Fuzz is slang for police officer.

hi ,

maybe in some parts of the world , in other parts it means " its nothing " , .......

have a nice day

[Datajack Franit]

You found out so late that Belgium and France are becoming islamic countries?

[Panag]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
You found out so late that Belgium and France are becoming islamic countries?

hi ,

saw it when in antwerp for the first time 15 years ago , .......

nothing wrong with islam , but something is wrong with fundametalism and the belgians who let them do whatever they want , ......

a huge demonstration is planned on suday in the streets of antwerp , starting at the jewish area by the AEL , run by abou dada , a man who is a liar , thief and a criminal , he lied to get the belgian nationality and the politicians do nothing about him in belgium , aldo he breaks the law every day , .......

mister dada wants the sharia to be implemented in belgium , excuse me , but huh the first person to be on trial should be the man who claims on national television that he has gotten his ID card true lies , ....

have a nice day

[alva]

and the politicians do nothing about him in belgium

As THIS IS a democracy, politics and law ARE seperated.
At one point the prime-minister wanted to intervein but was reminded of this little fact very fast.

and the belgians who let them do whatever they want

This is certainly true for other communities too IMVHO.

The thing is that if you do anything to foreigners you are accused of being racist immediately causing evryone to do nothing. (yep, perhaps until it boils over.)

Why are you so scared 'bout a small group of people that, yes, are fundi's but that's just part of being a democracy. You need all sorts and extremes to find the middle ground.

And Panag, don't tell me that you think the Jewish congregation is consisting of nothing but saints either.

[Panag]

Originally posted by alva

and the politicians do nothing about him in belgium

As THIS IS a democracy, politics and law ARE seperated.
At one point the prime-minister wanted to intervein but was reminded of this little fact very fast.

and the belgians who let them do whatever they want

This is certainly true for other communities too IMVHO.

The thing is that if you do anything to foreigners you are accused of being racist immediately causing evryone to do nothing. (yep, perhaps until it boils over.)

Why are you so scared 'bout a small group of people that, yes, are fundi's but that's just part of being a democracy. You need all sorts and extremes to find the middle ground.

And Panag, don't tell me that you think the Jewish congregation is consisting of nothing but saints either.

hi ,

last line ; nope , but how many jews do you know of in den amigo , .......

lets wait and see what happens today in antwerp , ......


and about the foreigners thing , if that where to apply , what about for example the people from china or india in antwerp , ... you dont see them rioting in the streets do ya , .... ???

leftwing belgians and people from around mister dada , those you see rioting in the streets , .......

funny how no one gets to mention that the courtcase against ariel sharon is history , ..... would this be due to the fact that boutmans and his gang are out , .....

have a nice day

[Straybow]

Yeah, Bin Laden and Al Qaida are "just a small group of people that are fundies," too.

We DO NOT need wackos in order to define a "middle ground," and ideological terrorists do not need to be given a hand in public education.

[Panag]

hi ,

well the belgians have done it again , ......


today trabelsi , an al Q op who was in the same cell as the people who killed mahmoud in afganhistan and who wanted to blow up an american base in belgium with nuclear weapons (!) was sentenced to the max penalty of ten years , ......

since there is a law there that makes you come free after 2/3 and pre trial time in jail counts double he shall serve only a couple years , ......

no wonder belgium is such a terror breading group , the whole system is wrong , .....

imagine this in the states , they would lock you up for what , 500 years or so , .......

mamamia , whats wrong with those politicians in that small country , ...........


have a nice day

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by panag
keep it civilized and on topic please , .....

You asked for examples of what I found wrong or irrelevent. Don't now say that I should stay on topic when you asked for my opinion. And what's that stuf about keeping civilized? I didn't say anything insulting or rude.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by panag
imagine this in the states , they would lock you up for what , 500 years or so , .......

He'd be executed, not that I agree with that. Life in prison is good enough.

[atawa]

Interesting thread.

Alva is right, in any civilised country people of all sorts have the right to hold demonstrations, why not this group?

Anyway, always fun to see how Israeli's respond to any critisism, are you people collectively paranoid?????

Oh and btw, I do support the intifada, after the end of apartheid in South Africa Israel seems to be the only country that still has 2 setts of civil rights. This is wrong and has to be condemned by every nation on earth.
(Most have allready done so on many ocasions, but usualy the US stops any UN resolution that isn't 100% pro-Israel)