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  • #46
    I'm always willing to have a free beer.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by chegitz guevara


      That's so not true. It's just that with 280 million of us to choose from, the media gets to have a field day with the wackiest examples. I, for example, have not sued two people who owe me thousands of dollars. I really have an aversion to going to court.
      Maybe in your state, but not in California my friend. I see the commercials on day time tv if I watch tv during the week day. But I doubt this would be a case any lawer would take since the amount of money your could get is small since he did not suffer a very serious injury.

      I could see sueing if you had to take weeks off work and had huge medical bills, but even in US the bills would most likely be small if you had insurance. Anther case for a suit is if you got crippled at the fair or died and someone you knew sued for you, that way you would be sure to get millions of dollars.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Jack_www
        Maybe in your state, but not in California my friend.
        There are 30 million people in California. Even if one tenth of one percent had frivolous lawsuits, that's still three thousand lawsuits, which seems like a lot in real numbers, but in percentages is actually just a tiny fraction.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by chegitz guevara


          There are 30 million people in California. Even if one tenth of one percent had frivolous lawsuits, that's still three thousand lawsuits, which seems like a lot in real numbers, but in percentages is actually just a tiny fraction.
          There is a lot of problems here in California due to frivolous lawsuits. In fact all over the US the health industry is facing rising costs due to people sueing doctors and winning when something goes bad and the patient gets hurt or dies.

          Mal pratice insurance rates are going up. Not too long ago a law frim here in California was using a loop hole in the law to try to get money out of small bussiness for minor violations of the law wich they already fixed, and they just got kicked off the California State bar.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Jack_www
            In fact all over the US the health industry is facing rising costs due to people sueing doctors and winning when something goes bad and the patient gets hurt or dies.
            This is a good thing. Doctors should be held responsible for medical malpractice.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by chegitz guevara


              This is a good thing. Doctors should be held responsible for medical malpractice.
              Not all of it is the doctors fault. Sometimes things go bad and there is nothing a doctor can do, and they get sued anyways.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
                After all, who could possibly have predicted that in a moshpit you might get hurt?


                Originally posted by optimus2861
                So this was a community festival type of event? Let's say you do sue, you get an award, the event's insurer pays out. You're all happy, you just cashed in, good for you. Now a precedent's been set, now somebody else who might've gotten hurt comes forward. Same as you, s/he wasn't permanently hurt, just a few days' pain. Another award. So on and so forth. The insurance company sees what's happening and realizes they'll have to cover themselves next time.

                Fast-forward a year. Community wants to put on the festival again. They get their quote from the insurer for the liability insurance, and the premium's skyrocketed! Now the community can't afford to put on the event. The event's cancelled. Everyone's bummed. But, hey, you cashed in!

                It'd be one thing if you'd been permanently injured or suffered some financial hardship, as you could build a solid economic claim out of either of those circumstances. But it sounds like neither is the case. Take some responsibility for your own life and don't ask the rest of society to pay you to make you feel better.
                Actually, with the amount Mean Fiddler get from Reading, and the amount of accidents and lawsuits usually, their premiums are already sky high. However when they make millions each year from the festival, it's not that high.

                Originally posted by Starchild
                You were at Reading Festival? So was I! Wow! Now only 15,999 other people to find.
                There were actually a few 'Polytoners there it seems We should have met up.

                Originally posted by Starchild
                Which mosh pit where you in? If it was Good Charlotte, you're a weak girly man. If it was some of the tougher bands, you're lucky to get out alive.
                The Music - last band, last night, Radio 1 tent. And the circle pit in Good Charlotte is not for the weak!

                Originally posted by Starchild
                If it was the Smirnoff Dance tent, I exile you to the coldest reaches of the arctic north.
                The dance tent isn't that bad! It has its uses...

                Personally, I don't think it's worth the hassle, although it depends if they'd settle. Morally I don't know. There really should be more stewards and crowd control that actually know what they're doing, but I doubt it would have stopped the accident. I just wish I had taken better care of you
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Jack_www
                  Not all of it is the doctors fault. Sometimes things go bad and there is nothing a doctor can do, and they get sued anyways.
                  My friend's father had the wrong foot amputated. He still needed to ahve the correct foot amputated. So now, because the doctor screwed up, he has no feet. Yet people whining about malpractice insurancecosts would like to limit his pain and suffering to a quarter million dollars!

                  A quarter million only for having NO FEET!?!

                  When California put a cap on damages, premiums continued to rise for another decade. It wasn't until California put a cap on premiums that malpractice insurance became affordable to doctors again. But Republicans with no brains (oh, wait, that's redudent!) would rather punish the patients.
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                  • #54
                    I just wish I had taken better care of you
                    Yeah! Sue Drogue!
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
                      Yeah! Sue Drogue!
















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                      • #56
                        This is a good thing. Doctors should be held responsible for medical malpractice.


                        Preach on brother che!

                        But I also agree that Rule 11 sanctions (for frivolous lawsuits) should be more commonly levyed.
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                        • #57
                          The Music - last band, last night, Radio 1 tent. And the circle pit in Good Charlotte is not for the weak!
                          THE MUSIC?!
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                          Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                          We've got both kinds

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                          • #58
                            I was standing toward the back during the Music so my friends and I could make an escape to Metallica
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                            • #59
                              I just can't imagine them having a huge moshpit. More of an indy-kid shuffle pit.

                              I was watching System of a Down who were awesome.
                              Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                              Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                              We've got both kinds

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                              • #60
                                Verres, hedge your bets. Fill in the form and return it (it's more on a census deal than actual intent to litigate).

                                Personally I'd only go law suit if I was seriously injured - Perjury has an unlimited prison sentence. And even if you don't do time, your cred is ruined for life.

                                3 weeks and you're OK? You're almost certainly OK. If you get paralysed in the next couple of months then have a lawyer see to it, but I reckon you'll have to find other ways to make your moolah.

                                Now, CRIMINAL compensation is much easier in the UK. Go for permanent brain damage and you get a whopping £20K.

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