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  • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    I'm with che and sky on this. NAMBLA has a right to advocate pedophilia if it so chooses. It simply cannot incite the illegal act. And no, explaining how to perform the act and talking about the act is no more incitement than High Times explaining how to role a joint and people talking about how they got high is incitement (ie, not at all).
    So they can keep doing this, give people information, how to manuals for people with intent to use them on others? Isn't it so that the High times could be tought of more like a suicide manual at worst and the nambla's manual as rapist manual...?

    They are creating situations where innocent people get hurt.

    If only would your country view them as terrorists, I mean, if you supply a terrorist you are ****ed.

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    • So they can keep doing this, give people information, how to manuals for people with intent to use them on others?


      Yep... it's called Free Speech.

      They are creating situations where innocent people get hurt.


      As are gun manufacturers, knife makers, electrical engineerings, etc, etc...

      NAMBLA, just like any other group has the right to free speech. There is no true free speech unless your hated groups enjoy it as well.

      If only would your country view them as terrorists


      All we need is to further streach the definition.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        So they can keep doing this, give people information, how to manuals for people with intent to use them on others?


        Yep... it's called Free Speech.

        They are creating situations where innocent people get hurt.


        As are gun manufacturers, knife makers, electrical engineerings, etc, etc...

        NAMBLA, just like any other group has the right to free speech. There is no true free speech unless your hated groups enjoy it as well.

        If only would your country view them as terrorists


        All we need is to further streach the definition.
        You don't see difference between nambla and High Times, or nambla and gun manufactorers? Okay.
        I do. The first I already explaimed. Gun manufactorers don't tell people how to destroy others, no tactics is given, no strategy. Just plain and simple manuals how to operate the gun. Gun is not information to hurt.
        Situation would be different if they had manual how to kill the annoying neighbour or mother in law you allways hated (and get how to get away with it). They don't encourage people to kill other people, or wound or even scare them.

        True free speech? There should be no true free speech. If some homicidial maniac is after you and somebody points him out to your direction I don't think you value true free speech much after that.

        Weren't you studying to be a lawyer? Good luck USA.

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        • You don't see difference between nambla and High Times, or nambla and gun manufactorers?


          Nope.

          The first I already explaimed.


          NO YOU DIDN'T! You said High Times was a 'suicide' manual vs. a 'rapist' manual of the NAMBLA mag. You do realize that suicide is illegal in most states in the US? And by the way, so is drug use. High Times has some parts that are 'manuals' for how to use illegal drugs. Would you ban it?

          Gun manufactorers don't tell people how to destroy others


          Well it's fairly self-evident. Pull trigger.

          Situation would be different if they had manual how to kill the annoying neighbour or mother in law you allways hated


          So if a magazine detailed how to kill someone with a sniper rifle, that would be illegal to you?

          True free speech? There should be no true free speech. If some homicidial maniac is after you and somebody points him out to your direction I don't think you value true free speech much after that.


          So if a homocidal maniac is after me, then I should have the right to shut up anyone that can point out where I am?

          Weren't you studying to be a lawyer? Good luck USA.


          The US already has good luck in its free speech laws. It doesn't need your police state.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • NO YOU DIDN'T! You said High Times was a 'suicide' manual vs. a 'rapist' manual of the NAMBLA mag. You do realize that suicide is illegal in most states in the US? And by the way, so is drug use. High Times has some parts that are 'manuals' for how to use illegal drugs. Would you ban it?
            Yeah, I said that because harm on self and harm on someone else are different.
            I wouldn't ban High Times, but the ones who are serious about keeping drugs illegal, and if they see High Times as something that directly encourages crime, why not. But that is not what I was even taling about.

            Well it's fairly self-evident. Pull trigger.
            Insert penis.
            So if a magazine detailed how to kill someone with a sniper rifle, that would be illegal to you?
            Yes.
            So if a homocidal maniac is after me, then I should have the right to shut up anyone that can point out where I am?
            Read again. can = will? 2+2=5?

            True free speech? There should be no true free speech. If some homicidial maniac is after you and somebody points him out to your direction I don't think you value true free speech much after that.
            There is all there is to it.

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