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    Document extends secrecy on Area 51 in southern Nevada

    ASSOCIATED PRESS

    CARSON CITY, Nev. (AP) - Invoking national security, President Bush has renewed an exemption allowing the Air Force to keep mum about its top-secret operations at Groom Lake, also known as Area 51, in southern Nevada.

    Bush signed a memorandum on Tuesday declaring it of "paramount interest" to exempt the base from disclosing classified information.

    President Clinton first issued the exemption in 1995 in response to two lawsuits filed by injured workers in Nevada seeking information about the military's environmental practices at the site. It has been renewed yearly.

    In renewing the order, Bush also cited the Nevada suits brought by injured workers and Helen Frost and Stella Kasza, widows of two men who worked at the military base.

    In their 1994 lawsuits, Frost and Kasza alleged that their husbands were exposed to hazardous and toxic materials while working at Groom Lake, which sits along a dry lake bed in Lincoln County, about 90 miles north of Las Vegas. The area is in a no-fly zone and closed to the public.

    Attorney Jonathan Turley, who represents the families, said the presidential directive keeps secret documents and testimony that he believes would link Area 51 to the men's deaths.

    "It is baffling to see the government continue to cover up what went on at Area 51," said Turley, who is also a George Washington University law professor. "It is clear that there were criminal crimes and that government officials continue to resist any disclosure that would confirm such criminal content."

    The 1-page memo exempts the Air Force from following federal, state or local solid waste and hazardous waste laws if classified information would be disclosed.

    The government has acknowledged the existence of the Groom Lake installation but has not disclosed what it does at the facility.

    The secrecy has fueled speculation about UFOs, aliens and other strange occurrences around Area 51. Residents of the nearby town of Rachel say the UFO talk began years ago when a Nevada Test Site worker claimed he saw alien ships there.

    Word got around and the stories haven't stopped. Even the state got in on the UFO lore, officially naming a 98-mile stretch of state Route 375, which runs through Rachel, the Extraterrestrial Highway in 1996 and erecting green highway signs with images of spaceships.

  • #2
    So the government's screwing the citizens. What else is new?
    meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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    • #3
      Criminal crimes?
      Blah

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      • #4
        It is clear that there were criminal crimes


        Are there any other kind?
        KH FOR OWNER!
        ASHER FOR CEO!!
        GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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        • #5
          Great minds think alike, eh BeBro?
          KH FOR OWNER!
          ASHER FOR CEO!!
          GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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          • #6
            Blah

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            • #7
              What Clinton did is a perfect example of why we cannot trust national security to the Democrats. He exempts the top secret status thereby jeopardizing national security just to please a lawsuit.

              Bush gets it!
              'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
              G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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              • #8
                Eh? Isn't Bush just renewing what Clinton started, or did I miss something?
                The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                • #9
                  You're doubly right, Laz. Bush is just renewed what Clinton started.

                  And, you missed that "the diplomat" is an uber-partisan ninny.


                  EDIT: And I am a grammatically incorrect ninny.
                  Last edited by Guynemer; September 20, 2003, 10:05.
                  "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                  "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Guynemer
                    You're doubly right, Laz. Bush is just renewed what Clinton started.

                    And, you missed that "the diplomat" is an uber-partisan ninny.
                    Ok, I misread it. But my conclusion still holds. Bush gets it when it comes to national security.

                    I am not a "uber-partisan ninny". But I do have political convictions. Nothing wrong with that!
                    'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
                    G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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                    • #11
                      Everybody point and laugh at The Diplomat. Ha ha ha!
                      The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                      • #12
                        Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
                        Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
                        We've got both kinds

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                        • #13
                          "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                          "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                          • #14
                            meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                            • #15
                              Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy?
                              "I don't believe in giving scripting languages because the only additional power they give users is the power to create bugs." - Mike Breitkreutz, Firaxis

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