Do you think its right that the police can lie to someone they have in custody?

[Vesayen]

Something I really hate about our police system.......

If the police have someone under investigation and they think they did X crime, they can say "Your buddy Y already admitted to, if you admit now the penalty wont be as severe"-meanwhile buddy Y hasent said it, or hasent even talked to the police.

[Dinner]

Best to only have associates you can trust if you're going to do something illegal.

[Jon Miller]

only if it is neccesary, like if they are asked if the person looks fat in this

Jon Miller

[CerberusIV]

Do you think it's right that someone in custody can lie to the police?

[Ming]

I have no problem with it... The police are hampered enough as it is. Any fool who talks without his lawyer around is a total moron and deserves what he gets.

If he does have a lawyer around, at least he can advise his client on the fact that they maybe lying... or provide a different POV of the situation.

[reds4ever]

Re: Do you think its right that the police can lie to someone they have in custody?

Originally posted by Vesayen
Something I really hate about our police system.......

If the police have someone under investigation and they think they did X crime, they can say "Your buddy Y already admitted to, if you admit now the penalty wont be as severe"-meanwhile buddy Y hasent said it, or hasent even talked to the police.

anyone who falls for that trick deserves to be locked up

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by CerberusIV
Do you think it's right that someone in custody can lie to the police?

Criminals can be immoral, we cant, because if we are we(society) looses our claim to moral mandate and our right to try to arrest anyone.

[CerberusIV]

Originally posted by Vesayen


Criminals can be immoral, we cant, because if we are we(society) looses our claim to moral mandate and our right to try to arrest anyone.

Society has a moral mandate???

Read some history. Governments aren't moral. They lie, cheat and steal from their ordinary citizens all the time.

Individuals have moral standards. When enough individuals have similar moral standards those standards are (imperfectly) reflected in the justice system.

[Vesayen]

We claim to be moral, if we do something that is obviously immoral we loose that claim, whether true or not.

[Urban Ranger]

The Prisoner's Dilemma. It's a good one.

[KrazyHorse]

Why shouldn't the cops lie about what sort of evidence they have, etc?

Anyhow, as I understand it, in Canada a suspect is advised of the fact that the police can lie to him as soon as he is taken into custody, along with his right to a lawyer, etc.

The only things cops can't and shouldn't be allowed to lie about are the suspect's rights etc. They can't threaten to beat him senseless if he doesn't cooperate, can't tell him that he has no right to an attorney, etc.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Anyhow, as I understand it, in Canada a suspect is advised of the fact that the police can lie to him as soon as he is taken into custody...

Why would you go and do a thing like that? It just spoils the suprise.

[chequita guevara]

I have no problem with the police lying to someone in custoddy. I have a problem with police lying to jurors.

[st_swithin]

If I ever get arrested, the first thing I'm going to ask is whether or not this dress makes me look fat.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Why would you go and do a thing like that? It just spoils the suprise.

It makes sense to me. Police are representatives of the State, and their role should be differentiated from that of a judge very clearly in the mind of the accused.

IIRC, the exact wording is "you have no reason to believe anything the police tell you". Which is a pretty sweet paradox...