Report: US is #1 in School Spending

[Japher]

Connorly rocks

I remember the protests on campus when Prop 209 went through... All white kids, and maybe a few black kids worried about their grades

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
Maybe one of the reasons they pay more is because not everybody wants to be a teacher, so they need to raise wages to attract more.

Maybe or then again maybe it's because the teachers Union is the largest union in the state and they only give campaign contributions to politicians who give them pay raises. How about we get teachers out of politics and back into teaching children?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Here is a good link for the school districts in San Diego county where I am currently moving back to. They make an average of $50k per year, have 12 weeks of vacation, and work 6 hour days. Even if you include 2 hours per day for grading papers you still are only at a regular 8 hour work day with a vacation rate six times the national average.

As my friends who live there keep telling me, San Diego is a rather expensive place to live. $50K there doesn't go as far as it does here. And, except for grade school teachers, I imagine they work spend quite a bit more time on homework than just two hours. They also have to make lesson plans, read up on the material, etc.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Oerdin
How about we get teachers out of politics and back into teaching children?

How about we live in a free society instead where people are allowed to be in politics regardless of their profession? Or should we do as the Anthenians, and have all public servants be slaves?

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Here is a good link for the school districts in San Diego county where I am currently moving back to. They make an average of $50k per year, have 12 weeks of vacation, and work 6 hour days. Even if you include 2 hours per day for grading papers you still are only at a regular 8 hour work day with a vacation rate six times the national average.

Top off with the fact that most teachers get degrees in the easy non-science displines and you see why the teachers are really over paid and not under paid.

Over here, they make about 32K per year. But a lot of schools here have buget shortfalls, meaning that sometimes the teachers themselves have to pay for the supplies they need. Meaning that number can quickly go down.

[Sava]

It's just more proof that our government is full of waste.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Dispite the propoganda the teachers get paid very, very well for someone who gets 12 weeks of vacation per year.

If they did teachers wouldn't quit. Many of them do.

[Dinner]

Any way you cut it the teachers are well paid and they've tried to block every single attempt at reforming the school system. There is no excuse for paying the most per student yet getting some of the worst results.

Something needs to change and I've given my plan. Why don't some of you guys step up to the plate and say how you'd improve things?

[chequita guevara]

Public boarding schools!

[Dinner]

The most important part of my plan is to cut the middle men out and to spend 75%, instead of 50%, of education funds on students and school facilities. That will at least insure smaller class sizes and better school conditions & equipment for the students. That's bound to improve learning conditions.

Killing the unions' political power is just the means to achieve this end as well as to impliment the strong tests so we can grade how our schools are doing.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Any way you cut it the teachers are well paid and they've tried to block every single attempt at reforming the school system.

In your opinion. How would you like your pay cut?

Originally posted by Oerdin
There is no excuse for paying the most per student yet getting some of the worst results.

Except that the results would be worse if we spent less. What else do you want to spend the money on?

Originally posted by Oerdin
Something needs to change and I've given my plan. Why don't some of you guys step up to the plate and say how you'd improve things?

How about we don't just use the old republican way of f'cking things up more by cutting funding?

[GePap]

Teachers accross the country are NOT a highly paid job, and as someone how just taught for 8 weeks a couple of summers, i can say that even that was a lot of work. Being a teacher is not an attractive job anymore, if it ever was in the US.

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Public boarding schools!

talk about the left advancing the homosexual agenda...

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Kidicious

In your opinion. How would you like your pay cut?

Except that the results would be worse if we spent less. What else do you want to spend the money on?

How about we don't just use the old republican way of f'cking things up more by cutting funding?

Read the posts. We wouldn't cut spending. Instead we'd actually spend more money on students and less money on over head which hasn't produced results. We'd be redirecting existing funds from nonproforming buerocratic over head and into things which directly effect students.

More schools and better repaired school, smaller class sizes, newer books (hopefully written by experts who don't have political bones to pick), more library books, more and newer computers. You honestly don't see how this would improve educations enviroments?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Read the posts. We wouldn't cut spending. Instead we'd actually spend more money on students and less money on over head which hasn't produced results. We'd be redirecting existing funds from nonproforming buerocratic over head and into things which directly effect students.

More schools and better repaired school, smaller class sizes, newer books (hopefully written by experts who don't have political bones to pick), more library books, more and newer computers. You honestly don't see how this would improve educations enviroments?

I have a particular problem with your proposition to break the teachers unions, and your claim that teachers are paid too much. Teachers are still underpaid. It's a very stressfull job that requires 5 years of college. Most teachers have to repay college loans.