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  • China Sends Armed Forces to Monitor North Korean Border

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    Hey. Irony can be funny, you know.

    1 hour, 46 minutes ago
    By JOSEPH KAHN The New York Times

    BEIJING, Sept. 15 Chinese armed forces have moved into new positions along the country's border with North Korea (news - web sites), charged with defending an 870-mile crossing that is often violated by hungry refugees from the isolated Communist state.

    Chinese foreign ministry (news - web sites) officials confirmed in a statement issued this afternoon that troops from the People's Liberation Army had replaced police along the border, though they did not confirm Hong Kong news reports that the move involved as many as 150,000 soldiers.

    The move marks a subtle but significant change in relations between the two Communist states, which fought together against the United States in the Korean War and still have a mutual defense treaty.

    While Chinese officials described the new border arrangements as a routine adjustment, it comes at a time when Beijing has exerted fresh pressure on North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons program. China is the main sponsor of multilateral negotiations involving North Korea, the United States and three other countries aimed at reaching a negotiated settlement to the Korean arms standoff.

    The dispatch of army troops also suggests that China could be preparing for the possibility of conflict in the region, though analysts said they considered it highly unlikely that China intends to threaten Pyongyang militarily.

    "I think this shows that China is getting more concerned about the overall state of affairs in North Korea and the refugee problem in particular," said Ma Dingsheng, a Chinese military analyst in Hong Kong. "But we are not seeing the kind of deployment you would see if China were contemplating military action."

    He said the border troops were the type that guard China's boundaries in other sensitive areas, like the restive Western region of Xinjiang, and were not equipped with tanks or artillery.

    The Korean border has been a source of consternation for China in recent years, as North Korea refugees have slipped over in increasingly greater numbers to escape poverty, famine and political repression. Groups devoted to helping the refugees say as many as 300,000 North Koreans live in northeastern China, often in constant fear of being captured and repatriated by Chinese police.

    The flow of refugees reaches its peak in the winter months, when the Yalu River freezes and people can walk across the loosely patrolled region with little difficulty.

    The Bush administration has pressed China to allow more North Koreans to flee across the border as a way of pressuring the Pyongyang regime of Kim Jong Il or even causing it to collapse. But Beijing has resisted those entreaties, and the deployment of troops suggests that it does not plan to relax its stance soon.

    Though many North Koreans live and work in China unofficially, Beijing often rounds up refugees and sends them back to North Korea without following United Nations (news - web sites) guidelines on assessing whether they fled for political or economic reasons. By many accounts Pyongyang authorities severely punish those people when they return.

    The foreign ministry statement said that border patrol duties had now been assigned to the army, replacing the police. Analysts said the troops would be taking over from the People's Armed Police, which is a quasi-military unit that performs border duties in some areas.

    The statement said a similar adjustment had been made on part of China's border with Myanmar. It did not give a reason for the change in either location.

    "It is a normal adjustment carried out after many years of preparation by the relevant parties," the statement said.

    Chinese troop movements near North Korea and Myanmar have attracted attention in recent weeks. Several Hong Kong newspapers have reported that as many as 150,000 troops have been assigned to tighten security along the Korean border, as many soldiers as the United States has stationed in Iraq (news - web sites), but the estimates are unconfirmed.
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  • #2
    That's just the excuse. Actually they are readying themselves to pour across the border should the US invade.
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    • #3


      China, who uses their female babies as Panda Chow.
      Hey, hey, hey, NK!
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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      • #4
        Pandas don't eat meat.
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • #5
          Not normally, no.
          But the Chinese dice up the baby girls, and put them in the Panda's eggs.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SlowwHand
            Not normally, no.
            But the Chinese dice up the baby girls, and put them in the Panda's eggs.

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            • #7
              Pandas don't eat eggs either. What do they teach you in school in Texas?
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #8
                Creationism?

                Seriously though, a war between China and NK would be cool, SK wouldn't be damaged, and there would be one less potentially nuclear threat in the East.

                I wonder how much the US would pay China to kick their arses
                Res ipsa loquitur

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                • #9
                  Didn't China go to war with Vietnam at one point?
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                  • #10
                    Everybody's been to war with Vietnam at one time or another. She's a bit of a war-whore.

                    Seriously though, I don't think so, certainly not anything serious.... ?
                    Res ipsa loquitur

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                    • #11
                      A short border war in the late 1970s. They also exchanged artilery fire with the Soviets when the Soviets refused to give up control of a disputed border area.
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                      • #12
                        China was the backer of North Vietnam, just like the USA was the backer of South Vietnam.
                        If that's what you're talking about.


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                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #13
                          Is that Provost in your avatar, Sloww?
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                          • #14


                            It comes from something like "Sleep well. The Air Force is Awake" something like that.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • #15
                              I don't see why this can be construed as a good thing. The troops will just be used to round up the refugees to be sent back to NK.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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