North Carolina continues to enforce Unconstitutional Sodomy Law.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Thorn


You wish to Qualify that statement?

In what way? You can't have sex in a public place. Period (as you say in America)

[Lincoln]

Originally posted by Thorn
Fine if my BF is going to disagree with me, I end my participation in this debate. Carry on without me.

Without you there is no debate.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Lincoln


Without you there is no debate.

I think 'squabble' is a more acurate description

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Lincoln
"They are pursuing charges against six men accused of having oral sex in a public park near a school."

Good for NC. These people need to control themselves in public places. No one has a constitutional right to engage in sexual activity in public. Please point out any court ruling that says that a community cannot regulate lewd activities in public places.

While this is true, they aren't being charged under a law that prohibits public indecency, they are being charged under a law that prohibits a certain sex act, whether in public or private. The law is still wrong, regardless of whether or not the men in question committed another crime.

[reds4ever]

Boris

Believe it or not (not just homosexual) sodomy was still illegal in the UK up until 5 or 6 years ago

[Boris Godunov]

I'm aware of that, but the problem here is that these men are being charged under a law that the SCOTUS has just effectively ruled unconstitutional.

[reds4ever]

Yep, I read, I only posted when Thorn said we could have sex in public places in Europe, unfortuneatly we can't.....:O(

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by reds4ever


no we can't, whoever told you that is full of sh!t, a straight or gay couple would be arrested for public indecency, end of story

How about The Netherlands? Well?

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


How about The Netherlands? Well?

I've been there, brothels are one thing but you still can't have sex in a public place. It's Amsterdam not Sodom and Gomarrah (sp), you'll be dissapointed if you you pay to get over there with that attitude

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Joseph
A big NO The USSC said the Texas law was unconstitutional and not the North Carolina law. They the S.C. just will have to go state by state.

No, they don't. Once SCOTUS has ruled, its rulings on the subject matter are automatically binding on all inferior courts.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Thorn


That is your opinion based on your interpretation.

Nope, that's the SCOTUS interpretation. Read the damned opinion and ruling of the court.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by reds4ever


It's Amsterdam not Sodom and Gomarrah (sp),

Is too! I know of a lady who visited, but who looked back out the plane window when she left. They had to stick her out in the south forty, where the cows find her very tasty.

[Boris Godunov]

That must have caused a lot of trouble.

*rimshot*

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Thorn


In Europe they can, only reason they can't here is cause of this Puritan crap.

If you are a serious advocate for public sex, then stop complaining -- there's bathouses, you know.

[Imran Siddiqui]

So nail 'em on public indecency.

Law enforcement officials said they continue to use the law because it is their only way to make arrests for prostitution that involves oral sex, which isn’t covered under the state’s prostitution law.

Prosecutors also bring crime against nature charges against people who have sex in public, which other state laws don’t specifically prohibit. A charge of indecent exposure would not necessarily apply because it’s a crime to be naked in public only if seen by a member of the opposite sex.

John A. Maxfield, legal adviser to the Wake County sheriff, and Dawn Bryant, Raleigh’s police attorney, have told officers they can continue to charge people with crime against nature as long as the activity occurs in a public place.

“We’re following constitutional law,” Bryant said. “The Supreme Court’s decision only applies to private conduct.”

As long as they are defining 'crime against nature' as public sex, then it isn't unconstitutional. If it applies to private conduct, then it is, of course, unconstitutional.