Anti-War U.S. Marine Sentenced to Six Months in Jail

[Sava]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Sava, find a new song to hum, will ya ?

Hersh, your contract is valid until separation.

Nah, because I know the field day you'd be having if we had a Dem prez who had been AWOL for over a year and never faced justice.

But I guess you only care about desertion if it is done by "anti-war" people, right?

[SlowwHand]

WTF are you talking about now?

Have you considered a mental analysis?

[Sava]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
WTF are you talking about now?

Your hypocrisy...

Have you considered a mental analysis?

huh huh huh huh, you said "anal"

[HershOstropoler]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Outside of a draft, I don't see how anyone in the military gets conscientious objector status at all because you have to willingly sign up for military service. Doing that kind of removes you from consideration as being a conscientious objector IMO.

I hate to say it, but I agree with that. And it's a bit odd, because I think that's the rule even for our opera army.

[Arrian]

This is pretty cut and dried. They guy signed up voluntarily. He knew what he was expected to do. Then, when called upon to actually DO it, he refused. That's just piss poor, and deserving of punishment. The others, who got off completely... that's just insane.

-Arrian

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Sava
Nah, because I know the field day you'd be having if we had a Dem prez who had been AWOL for over a year and never faced justice.

You mean like Clinton's letter to the guy thanking him for getting him out of the draft?

Or Gore's bull**** tour where he was protected from any harm and rotated out early?

Or LBJ's bull**** direct commission, and his bullsit Silver Star for going part way out on a single mission, on a plane that aborted it's mission for a mysterious mechanical problem that couldn't be reproduced, delivering the Congressman turned Lt. Commander safely back to base, whereupon he was returned to the US, and released from duty so he could go back to being a Congressman, but with his fake "hero" ticket punched?

Shall I go on, Savita?

[Jack_www]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Outside of a draft, I don't see how anyone in the military gets conscientious objector status at all because you have to willingly sign up for military service. Doing that kind of removes you from consideration as being a conscientious objector IMO.

I agree with this. You know that if you join the millitary you could be called up at any time, sent any were in the world and fight a war that started for a bunch of different reasons. To change your mind when the fighting comes does not make any sense to me anyways.

[Sprayber]

There were two people that got out of my unit after we were alerted for duty. One went out and got his doctor to write up that he had Sleep apnea after a guy in another unit had gotten out with the same thing. (The other guy was willing to go and had actually kept it from the medical people until it was found out.) The other was a female that somehow got a transfer from our unit to STARC (State Area Command). STARC is known as the unit that never goes anywhere. The commander made a promise to us that she would never be in his company again for as long has he was commander.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

gezz MtG... you are a mod. perhaps you should set a better example around here (i'm talking about some of your 'colorful' posts.

6 months. hmmm... i guess i would have to think about that. i mean how bad can 6 months be. i did 8 months on a carrier three times (pretty much the same thing). I would have guessed the sentence to be more.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Outside of a draft, I don't see how anyone in the military gets conscientious objector status at all because you have to willingly sign up for military service. Doing that kind of removes you from consideration as being a conscientious objector IMO.

I'm with Dino on this one. It's an all-volunteer armed forces... this isn't "playing soldier", this is being an actual ****ing soldier.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by My Wife Hates CIV
gezz MtG... you are a mod. perhaps you should set a better example around here (i'm talking about some of your 'colorful' posts.

(a) We're talking about a deserter. I'm being gentle.

(b) Sometimes I forget some words aren't censored that probably should be, and some are that probably shouldn't be.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
You mean like Clinton's letter to the guy thanking him for getting him out of the draft?

Or Gore's bull**** tour where he was protected from any harm and rotated out early?

Did not the Republicans make much hay out of these? And yet, neither is the same as deserting from your unit for 18 months and then struting around on an aircraft carrier calling yuorself a hero.

[MichaeltheGreat]

I'm not a fan of the carrier landing, especially as I know the bit about it not delaying arrival home is bull**** - I saw the carrier from the hills here, for about two full days longer than is normal for a CV offloading it's aircraft before going into port.

OTOH, it's silly to debate which form of chicken-choking "daddy, save me" fun and games is worse. They're all bogus, and they're all insults to men like John McCain, John Kerry, Bob Kerrey, Zell Miller, etc.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by HershOstropoler
I hate to say it, but I agree with that.

Why do you hate to say it? It just means that one of us is getting more intelligent.

[HershOstropoler]

I'm rather concerned it could mean one of us is getting dumber.