One of my friends wants to know if the ASUS FX 5200 is better than a GF4 MX440, he is building a complete new system by the way (P4 2.4 and 512RAM) The price diference is about 2x so... what should I tell him?
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Depends on what he wants to play, both can suck.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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Tell him to spend 50$ extra and buy a rad 9600 or fx 5600...Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
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Thx, he will buy the 5200 after all
The 5900 would be waaay too expensive, he doesn´t want to know the price ( )The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power.
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The people buying the FX 5900 didn't do their research very well.
It's literally half the speed or less compared to the Radeon 9800 in PixelShader 2.0 code, which won't manifest itself until Half-Life 2 or DOOM 3 comes out that use them extensively..."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Anandtech's review of FX5900 Ultra with Doom3 (here) puts it ahead of Raedon 9800 Pro.(\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
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That's because the FX5900 is forced to use 16-bit floats instead of 32-bits, once you switch to 32-bit it's ungodly slow. Carmack wrote an entire backend (due to the woeful sadness of OpenGL) for NV30 and NV35, forcing them to use FP16 instead of FP32 because of it."The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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Gabe Newell, Valve Software:
We've started some initial DX9 Shader tests, and have seen, so far that NVIDIA NV3x hardware has a hard time.. Will it'll be similar w/ the HL2 Benchmark?
"Yep."
John Carmack, id Software:
GD: John, we've found that NVIDIA hardware seems to come to a crawl whenever Pixel Shader's are involved, namely PS 2.0..
Have you witnessed any of this while testing under the Doom3 environment?
"Yes. NV30 class hardware can run the ARB2 path that uses ARB_fragment_program, but it is very slow, which is why I have a separate NV30 back end that uses NV_fragment_program to specify most of the operations as 12 or 16 bit instead of 32 bit."
Here in particular shows the weakness of 2.0 support on the NV3x:
and Halo benchmarks for interest:
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