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    By Adam Liptak, New York Times News Service
    August 31, 2003

    The sentencing to death of a Louisiana man last week for raping an 8-year-old girl has reopened a debate about whether crimes that do not involve killings may ever be punished by death.

    There has not been an execution for rape in the United States since 1964, and no one has been executed for any crime that did not involve a killing since the Supreme Court reinstated the death penalty in 1976.

    The Louisiana law under which the man, Patrick O. Kennedy, was convicted allows the death penalty for the rape of a child younger than 12. It was enacted in 1995.

    Graham da Ponte, one of Kennedy's attorneys, said the punishment was disproportionate to the crime.

    A number of states and the federal government have laws on the books that allow the death penalty for crimes not involving killing. Among them are treason, espionage, kidnapping, aircraft hijacking and large-scale drug trafficking. California allows executions for train wrecking and for perjury that leads to another's execution.

    Florida and Montana have broad capital rape laws on the books that do not distinguish by the victim's age, though the Florida Supreme Court has ruled that the Florida law is unconstitutional.

    In 1977, the Supreme Court ruled that the death penalty may not be imposed for the rape of an adult woman. The penalty was, the court ruled, disproportionate to the crime and therefore forbidden as cruel and unusual punishment under the Eighth Amendment.

    Legal experts differed on whether the reasoning of that case would also forbid executions in cases involving the rape of a child.

    When Louisiana enacted its law in 1995, a few legislators argued against it based on concerns about its constitutionality. Others wondered whether it would encourage rapists of children to kill their victims on the theory that they would have nothing to lose.

    In 1996, the Louisiana Supreme Court, in a 5-2 decision, ruled that the law was constitutional.

    The case ended in a plea bargain for a life sentence. Louisiana prosecutors have pursued other cases under the child rape law, but Kennedy's is the first case in which the jury returned a death sentence.

    Legal experts say the U.S. Supreme Court is likely to hear Kennedy's case if the Louisiana courts uphold his death sentence.

    Kennedy was accused of raping an 8-year-old relative, injuring her so badly that she required surgery. The girl, who is now 13, testified against him. His goddaughter also testified, at the penalty phase of the trial. Now in her 20s, the woman said that Kennedy had raped her on three occasions when she was 8 or 9.

    Assistant District Attorney Donnie Rowan told the jury in Gretna, La., that these acts warranted execution.

    "He made the choice to take the innocence of those two girls and throw it into the dirt," Rowan said.
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  • #2
    Is the rapist black?
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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    • #3
      (ignoring MrFun's post) I think they should send him to a jail where they KNOW he will be raped and murdured.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MrFun
        Is the rapist black?
        To answer this question would destroy the purpose of the thread.

        And as far as the question of criminals killing the child, they'll do it anyway if they want to. Criminals rarely commit crimes thinking they'll be caught.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by MrFun
          Is the rapist black?
          Being a Kennedy would be a bigger problem.

          ACK!
          Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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          • #6
            Rape makes it rather improbable that there's not a lot of DNA evidence. If that has been used to establish his guilt, then fry the sonofa*****, regular, extra crispy, or extra slow, let me jiggle this wire and see what's wrong here, I don't give a fair damn.

            Just fry him, assuming there's no doubt as to guilt.
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            • #7
              Any sentence in Louisiana causes debate, over what the heck was said.
              Damn coonasses.

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              • #8
                An ol' Justin was raht, too. Eet sho does tas' good.

                Makin' me hungry for some gumbo with extra tasso and crawdads thrown in.
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                • #9
                  You seen how they attack crawdads? By the platter full, each ?
                  I mean to say, a crawdad lover loves crawdads.
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                  • #10
                    Yep.

                    I used to catch em as a kid, too. Dumber than mud. All you needed was a bright metal pin bent into a hook shape, and drop it in front of them, they'd grab on and you just dump 'em into your bucket.
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                    • #11
                      I think child rapists should be put to death.
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • #12
                        What?!? I thought you were anti-death penalty?
                        New day?
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                        • #13
                          Death penalty is a violation of human rights as far as I am concerned. The specifics of the case is irrelevant.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by St Leo
                            Death penalty is a violation of human rights as far as I am concerned. The specifics of the case is irrelevant.
                            amen
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                            • #15
                              My brain says: as horrible and apalling as this crime is, killing the perp is disproportionate to the damage caused. The poor child will bear emotional scars for life 'cause of this f*ck, but she will live, and hopefully overcome this.

                              My heart says: kill him. You wanna be merciful? Take him for a walk in the prison yard, point to something in the far corner, and put two bullets in the back of his head when he turns to look. Fine. Just kill him, because it's the only way to ensure that he will never, ever do this again.

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