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but they'd best treat engineering reports as what they are: expert opinions from qualified professionals, and not dismiss them out of hand as self-serving lobbying
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I think you can consider them as both expert opinions and self-serving lobbying.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891 -
Really? From where do you happen to know that?Originally posted by DanS
I know that we spend about 1.5x more of a percentage of our economy on construction than does Europe (2x in absolute terms), for instance.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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My bad. It appears to be roughly the same as a percentage of economy, and therefore one and a third or whatever per capita in absolue terms.
See page 24 of the following report (marked as page 22)...
Adjusted upward slightly for recent years according to the BEA GDP by industry table...
Last edited by DanS; September 7, 2003, 14:54.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Yup. Btw, the demand side looks a bit different; 9 % for the US, 10-11 % for the EU.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Where do you get those demand side comparisons?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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From national accounts or census data based on them.
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“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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How do the NIPA accounts relate to the Census accounts?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Should be the same, with maybe some adjustments.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Originally posted by DanS
$12 billion for 15 stations isn't bad at all, which makes me think they will raise the price tag eventually. DC Metro stations cost about as much and I'm sure are utilized only a fraction of what a Manhattan station is utilized.
hi ,
whats that going to be , an express line , ......
they should also poor some money in the old unused stations , .....
and they could use many of the old railroadtunnels in the five boroughs , .... that would be cheaper then to dig new tunnels , .....
and one way to reduce the cost ; use some convicts from rikers or so , ...... give them something like 10 a day and a reduced sentence , ......
have a nice day
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But then one is double the other. Why?Should be the same, with maybe some adjustments.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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If I remember the methodology correctly, the output side counts the value added by the construction industry. The investment use side counts the total value of the structure, so it includes building materials, architect services etc.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Since when are the people on the far left for more heavy construction?
Aren't you afraid you'll "upset the balance of the earth?" or may accidently pave over some "sacred Indian burial ground?" (it happened here a few years ago.)-rmsharpeComment
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I favor more construction projects within reason -- for instance, I would oppose leveling the Rocky Mountains, and then covering it entirely under concrete.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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hi ,
why the heck do they need 15 years for this new line , .....
like there aint enough traffic jam's allready on fifth , ......
in 15 years they could build one under each av , .....
and since most lines are allready there , they should re-use whats allready build , .....
darn cityhall ,......
have a nice day
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They could do it inless than 15 years..if in 5 years they forced everyone living within an avenue block of second avenue o leave Manhattan, then tore throught the area at a breakneck speed...
They have to watch out for gas mains, water mains, electric and phone wires and the foundations of local buiuldings. They have to build under the street while not disrupting traffic unduly, they have to demolish various buildings and business to install the entrances to new stations, plus ventilation and emergency exits.
If anything, 15 years is an optimistic timetable.If you don't like reality, change it! me
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