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  • Bill Clinton - Terrorisms greatest foe!

    Ok, Bill Clinton was not terrorism's greatest foe. But why?

    Here is a recent book documenting Clinton's active suppression of activities to arrest Osama bin Laden. Why was Clinton so adverse to going after this man?



    "Years before the public knew about bin Laden, Bill Clinton did. Bin Laden first attacked Americans during Clinton’s presidential transition in December 1992. He struck again at the World Trade Center in February 1993. Over the next eight years the archterrorist’s attacks would escalate killing hundreds and wounding thousands—while Clinton did his best to stymie the FBI and CIA and refused to wage a real war on terror.

    Why?

    The answer is here in investigative reporter Richard Miniter’s stunning exposé that includes exclusive interviews with both of Clinton’s National Security Advisors, Clinton’s counter-terrorism czar, his first CIA director, his Secretary of State, his Secretary of Defense, top CIA and FBI agents, lawmakers from both parties and foreign intelligence officials from France, Sudan, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates, as well as on the-scene coverage from Sudan, Egypt, and elsewhere.

    In Losing bin Laden you’ll learn:

    The new evidence that Clinton knew about Sudan’s offers to arrest bin Laden—and why he ignored them

    The never before told story of the Saudi government attempt to assassinate bin Laden

    Why Bill Clinton refused to meet with his first director of Central Intelligence

    Drawn from secret Sudanese intelligence files, the never-before-told story of Bin Laden’s role in shooting down America’s Black Hawk helicopters in Mogadishu, Somalia—and how Clinton manipulated the news media to keep the worst off America’s TV screens

    How Clinton ignored intelligence and offers of cooperation against bin Laden from Afghanistan’s Northern Alliance

    How Bill Clinton scuttled a secret offer from the United Arab Emirates to arrest bin Laden

    The 1993 World Trade Center attack—why Clinton refused to believe it had been bombed; why the CIA was kept out of the investigation; and how one of the FBI’s most trusted informants was actually a double agent working for bin Laden

    Why the CIA never funded bin Laden—despite the liberal myths

    How Clinton ignored Yemen’s pleas for help in arresting bin Laden—in 1993

    The untold story of a respected Congressman who repeatedly warned Clinton officials about bin Laden in 1993—and why he was ignored

    Revealed for the first time: how Clinton and a Democratic Senator stopped the CIA from hiring Arabic translators—while phone intercepts from bin Laden remained untranslated

    How the Predator spy plane—which spotted bin Laden three times—was grounded by bureaucratic infighting.

    Plus much more, including, appendices of secret documents and photos, as well as the established links between bin Laden and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.

    Losing bin Laden is a dramatic, page-turning read, a riveting account of a terror war that bin Laden openly declared, but that Clinton left largely unfought. With a pounding narrative, up-close characters and detailed scenes, it takes you inside the Oval Office, the White House Situation Room and within some of the deadliest terrorist cells that America has ever faced. If Clinton had fought back, the attacks on September 11, 2001 might never have happened.

    Losing bin Laden is a story—and one hell of a lesson—that the reader will never forget.
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    Clinton: If Clinton had fought back, hundreds more Americans would have died. If Clinton had given more flexibility to intelligence, as well as foreign policy, we wouldnt be where we are today.
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    • #3
      I saw this guy on Hardball, doesn't look good for Slick Willie.

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      • #4
        If Clinton had fought back, hundreds more Americans would have died.

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        • #5
          I saw this guy on Hardball, doesn't look good for Slick Willie.


          So he wasn't a nut job? Might have to check this out...
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          • #6
            interesting.
            although I doubt that catching OBL would have really prevented 9/11. after all he only is a single person. and we don´t know in what sick minds all the ideas for these terror-attacks were born.
            justice is might

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            • #7
              Drawn from secret Sudanese intelligence files
              This book relies on reliable sources, I see?

              The new evidence that Clinton knew about Sudan’s offers to arrest bin Laden—and why he ignored them
              Again, such an accurate source!

              lawmakers from both parties and foreign intelligence officials from France, Sudan, Egypt, and the United Arab Emirates, as well as on the-scene coverage from Sudan, Egypt, and elsewhere.
              yep, this guy relies on only the best...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Zevico

                This book relies on reliable sources, I see?


                Again, such an accurate source!


                yep, this guy relies on only the best...
                All information sources should be evaluated for reliability and the info interpreted for meaning. That is the difference between information and intelligence. One of the greatest failures of american intelligence and foreign relations is your type of colonial attitude.
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                • #9
                  I've never been much of a Clinton fan (except during elections -- regardless of what you think of him, the guy was an amazing campaigner), so I wouldn't reflexively dismiss this. But it's worth noting that most of the press I could turn up on this book stemmed from the usual right-wing suspects: The Washington Times, The Wall Street Journal, syndicated colunmist Robert Novak, Townhall.com, etc. (curiously, Richard Mellon Scaife's Pittsburgh Tribune-Review hasn't weighed in yet, but I'm sure it won't be long). All of these sources have turned Clinton-hating into a cottage industry, if not an art form; the Washington Times and Novak in particular have taken it even further, repeating as fact every spurious, even ludicrous, piece on info that casts aspersions on Bill and/or Hilary. Until I see some info on this book from a source that doesn't reflexively spew venom anytime anybody says "Clinton," I'd have a hard time taking it seriously.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by elijah
                    I thought we weren't allowed to plug things or put adverts here

                    Clinton: If Clinton had fought back, hundreds more Americans would have died. If Clinton had given more flexibility to intelligence, as well as foreign policy, we wouldnt be where we are today.
                    So, even though bin Laden and these other terrorists have been murdering American citizens for years, we shouldn't ever do anything, because of risk?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
                      it's worth noting that most of the press I could turn up on this book stemmed from the usual right-wing suspects: The Washington Times, The Wall Street Journal, syndicated colunmist Robert Novak, Townhall.com, etc. (curiously, Richard Mellon Scaife's Pittsburgh Tribune-Review hasn't weighed in yet, but I'm sure it won't be long).
                      Of course you won't see left-wing media jump on board unless this stuff is proven true. If left wing papers/mags started supporting this stuff, it would seriously hurt the Democrates chance of a presidential victory come next November. And it would certianly discredit any chance that Hilary has in '08.

                      This is actually making me think of stuff I was thinking about last night... I guess I'll start another thread though as it is only loosely based on this stuff....
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by donegeal


                        Of course you won't see left-wing media jump on board unless this stuff is proven true. If left wing papers/mags started supporting this stuff, it would seriously hurt the Democrates chance of a presidential victory come next November. And it would certianly discredit any chance that Hilary has in '08.

                        This is actually making me think of stuff I was thinking about last night... I guess I'll start another thread though as it is only loosely based on this stuff....
                        Actually, the left wing press would be a good measure; they hated Clinton almost as much as the Right did (it was only a fantasy of the Right that Clinton was ever a leftist). If this story is valid, I could easily imagine The Nation, In These Times, or Counterpunch supporting it.

                        But I actually meant the mainstream press; they, too, were happy to jump on anti-Clinton stories from time to time, but showed more restraint and prudence that the froth-at-the-mouth crowd.

                        Basically, if the story is valid, somebody will say so other than those folks who have a serious economic incentive to keep bashing Clinton. That's all I'm waiting for.
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                        • #13
                          And does the last paragraph of the book read anything like

                          "All hail the great G W Bush for leading us into the War Against Terror. Don't forget to vote Republican for the people who are making America safe. Recommend this book to your friends because I, the author, need the money."

                          by any chance?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CerberusIV
                            And does the last paragraph of the book read anything like

                            "All hail the great G W Bush for leading us into the War Against Terror. Don't forget to vote Republican for the people who are making America safe. Recommend this book to your friends because I, the author, need the money."

                            by any chance?
                            That's pretty much what the book is about. I saw the guy on the O'Reilly Factor... you know someone is a kook when Bill O'Reilly defends Clinton.
                            To us, it is the BEAST.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sava
                              That's pretty much what the book is about. I saw the guy on the O'Reilly Factor... you know someone is a kook when Bill O'Reilly defends Clinton.
                              WHAT! WHAT!, Nobody told me Sava was watching the O'Reilly Factor, oh Sh!t, looking at the sky.
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